david ignatius of "the washington post," who you also know very well, and who is a longtime observer has great contacts in washington and in saudi arabia. he wrote a really interesting deep dive into all of this. he also as part of that, he said that mbs, mohammed bin salman, became increasingly anxious to those he considered enemies. starting in the spring of 2017 a team of saudi operatives under control of the royal court began organizing kidnappings of dissidents abroad and at home according to saudi experts and he mentions harsh interrogation and covert sites. let me now play a sound bite from jamal khashoggi after this event 2017 where you were sitting with him and he expressed his fears. >> why are you in, quote unquote, self-exile? explain that. >> simply because i don't want to be arrested. the irony that mohammed bin salman doesn't have an opposition. he doesn't have the tall ban as i have in afghanistan. most of the people, most of the intellectuals -- most of the people in jail are supportive of reform. if they were out of jail, they would be supporting him. there is no ne

and editor for the "washington post," david ignatius. up what the cia has concluded, what the intelligence has concluded, what the world community has concluded, what our allies have concluded and what donald trump said yesterday. how do we square it and how do we move forward as a country trying to be the leader of the free world? >> joe, this was as cold-blooded a statement as i can ever remember being issued by a president. it was in very unpresidential style, almost a chatter, a shout you would have from the president with the tape recorder running. it began by saying america first, with an exclamation point, and the subtext for me throughout was "values last." the president, as you said, put aside the judgment of the cia that the crown prince of saudi arabia, mohammad bin salman, very likely was responsible for the killing of my colleague and friend, jamal khashoggi, and trump said maybe he knew and maybe he didn't, but the implication was he didn't really care. he was going to make his decision based on u.s. economic interests, sau

david ignatius, columnist and political analyst for msnbc.e of these were to build relationships between law enforcement and the communities they serve, others mental health programs. it seemed like it was a step in the right direction and i'm curious about your analysis as it reflected, that program under the obama administration and where it goes next. >> it's a useful program. it's not a big expensive cost item, $10 million, in terms of the total overall spending on law enforcement and even domestic terrorism. it's a small amount. what's discouraging is that this is another sign that in any area that involves domestic white supremacist groups, the administration pulls back from the kind of condemnation that i think people would expect. certainly that was the case after charlottesville, with the president's comments about both sides are to blame. in this case, some of the grants that this program at dhs has been making to try to mobilize people to try to deal with domestic terrorism, domestic acts of violence was a program for white suprema

mike barnacle, donny deutsch along with columnist for "the washington post" david ignatius.hor and nbc news presidential historian, president of the ceo atlantic council fred camp and nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. so many good people this hour. i don't know where to begin. >> why don't we just start with historical look at what happened this past week. let's go to michael. michael, really after this tuesday's elections i'm looking at things so much differently and this weekend i did not see america alone. i saw donald trump alone. enraged that republicans were historically rejected despite having every structural advantage on their side by the voters. they rejected trumpism in america. that was a message heard across all four corners of the globe. mueller who is silent. obviously donald trump has to know indictments are coming. >> right. >> maybe for some people closer to him. i don't know. to me it looked not like america alone this weekend, it looked like trump alone. what was your take? >> it did. you

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the trip prompted "washington post" opinion columnist david ignatius to write in part, "trump set theliance wobbling from the day he took office, raising doubts about the united states' continued readiness to pay for other countries' defense. europeans spent the year trying to make nice but they seem to have gotten the message. the united states isn't a fully reliable protector anymore." here to talk about all of it. america's changing role on the world stage. a veteran diplomat, michael mcfaul. our former u.s. ambassador to russia. ambassador, i started with a foreign correspondent earlier this week by asking the standard question. what are they saying about us over there? and to your mind what are they saying about us over there? >> i think david gets it right. in the beginning they were trying to make good to think they could court him and everybody thought flattery works with the president. but two years in they're not finding that works. so they're thinking about going their own way. and let's be clear. they've been talking about a european army long before president trump. so th

. >> and kevin, what about secretary mattis, because there is some reporting that david ignatius wrote an article today why hasn't he spoken out against the deployment which is costly, and opportunities lost that the troops cannot continue their regular training mission, and personal impact on them. it will clearly come during a holiday period, thanksgiving up to christmas. >> yes, and david is writing the same thing that a lot of the current and the former pentagon officials are saying all week since the beginning of this including general dempsey, the former chair mman of the joint chiefs and secretary hagelle who have both come out warning against this. i think that it is really going to put mattis on the spot more than he has been in the tenure, and either you think that the secretary of defense is supposed to be a border, a bullwork between the troops and trump and someone to protect the force and carry tout president's oorders or he is a cabinet member and believe in what trump is doing, and if not, he should walk away. more are calling to walk away. and also, because he is a gen

well, for more on relations with saudi arabia we're joined now by washington post columnist, david ignatius has written extensively on the inner workings of the kingdom. thank you for coming in. i want to play something from mike pompeo. whilst he was talking up on the hill talking about jamal khashoggi whilst he was talking up on the hill talking aboutjamal khashoggi and what evidence there might be. there is no direct reporting connecting the crown prince to the order murderjamal khashoggi. so it sounds to me like mike pompeo is choosing his words quite carefully, that there is no direct evidence. what has the (aa found? it is my understanding that the cia believes that the crown prince mohammed bin someone was responsible for this team's mission and was responsible for the death of khashoggi. it is my understanding further that there are specific calls that were made by the person who was running this operation to the crown prince in the days surrounding jamal khashoggi's death. it isa surrounding jamal khashoggi's death. it is a question of whether that information is available to the u

of the council on foreign relations, richard haas, associate editor for "the washington post" david ignatius and washington anchor for bbc world news america caddie kay. richard, you thought you were going to get yourself a g20, go down, have a couple sideline meetings and get out of town. no such luck. >> three mine fields, the russian one, the saudi one with mbs, the crown prince trying to make believe that everything is normal, and what might ultimately and economic and policy terms be the most consequential, the meeting between president trump and xi jinping. >> we'll get into all that in a moment. >>> but first, in federal court, michael cohen, former executive vice president of the trump organization and the personal attorney to president trump during his first year in office pleaded guilty to a single count of making false statements to congress about the length and scope of contacts about a project to build a trump tower in moscow. identifying the president as individual one, the charging document says cohen discussed the status and progress of the moscow progress with individual one