david ignatius, fred ryan is right.ponse to this killing of your colleague has been impot t impotent. there's nothing of note to speak of. where is the u.s.-saudi relationship today six months after the killing of your colleague at the "washington post"? >> joe, i think the simplest way to describe it is that u.s.-saudi relations are frozen pending some accountability in the kingdom. prince mohammed bin salman must take responsibility for actions done in his name by operatives of his government. fred ryan, our publisher, has really led our whole newspaper in trying to keep faith with the memory of jamaal. the first thing i would say six months later is we miss him. he was a very popular person in our newsroom and it's still a shock to us. i think as shocking as his murder is the sort of willful disdain the saudis have shown. they haven't released the names of those who have been charged in his murder, they've released almost no details. we don't even know to this day six months later what happened to his body. the saudi

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this is somebody' a agreeing to commit a crime. >> david ignatius, you spoke with julian assange' lawyersoday. how do they respond to this argument. how confident are they that they can keep assange in the uk? >> they want to fight this case under the banner of press freedom. the justice department may have drawn the indictment narrowly and focused on the assistance in cracking a password, on hacking the computer file, but the argument that the lead attorney for assange makes it's really about journalism. what assange did is what journalists do. he obtained information from a source and made it available to public and he deserves the same protections as a journalist from a news organization would. that's basically the argument we're going to have, i think, over months. >> glen, we were talking a little bit about the process, potentially for practice indicting somebody. how hard is it for us to get somebody from the uk? >> i extra indicted exactly one defendant from tcu. it was somebody who committed a murder in washington, d.c., fled to london and he was holed up not in an embassy but in

columnist and associate editor for "the washington post" david ignatius.a, katty kay. and historian, author of "the souffle america" and rogers professor of the presidency at vanderbilt university john meacham an nbc news and msnbc contributor. so, we'll start this morning, though, we'll get to politics at some point but we'll start with the latest on the catastrophic fire at notre dame. officials in paris say the structure of the cathedral itself has been saved and preserved as a whole. while the fire spread to one of the two famous bell towers, they have also been spared. 500 firefighters battled the blaze for hours and were able to prevent the fire from spreading to the northern belfry. one firefighter has suffered serious injuries, and there are no fatalities. still, most of the roof of the 12th and 13th century gothic cathedral has been destroyed and this spire collapsed after being engulfed in flames. officials say the fire started at about 6:45 p.m. local time and roughly around closing time. the exact cause is currently unknown. but french media is

david ignatius is with us. he's normally one of our guests when discussing politics and news coverage of this administration. he joins us today in the context of having spent three years as executive editor of the international herald trib in paris. put in words the loss we're witnessing in real time. >> watching the images i'm sure every one of us feels a vitrol sense of loss. this is a place where history has emerged over so many centuries back to medieval times. i remember the first time i went to notre dame when i was a teenager, lightian saying a prayer. i think the one piece of hope i take as i look at these images is that the whole world is watching with the same sense of shock. there are these moments that the world comes together as one with the same sense of tragedy. and maybe the images of the fire and the tower collapsing will pull us together and remind us of what's common and shared by people. >> there is that tragic emptiness that you reference. there's nothing we can do about this. >> there's no

"washington ude post" columnist david ignatius news drea mitchell of nbc hosted by george mason about 1 1/2 his is hours. [applause] >> thanks, everybody, for coming. started : before i get i want to acknowledge a few other special guests we have here. first and foremost we have the current assistant secretary of of e for the bureau intelligence and research at ellen mccarthy. currentderful to have a employee here working the intelligence mission attending our event. attending tonight, former director jacobi. e have the director of the international spy museum chris costa here as well. or those interested in the spy museum it's reopening on may 11 or 12th -- may 11th. had the good fortune of visiting it. it's magnificent, if you haven't to the spy to go museum you will love the new spy museum. of lso have a handful intelligence officials here. dean boyd from the national counterintelligence and security who is and tim barrett the press secretary of the c.i.a. thanks for coming. ast but not least i want to acknowledge a guy that did attastic work for many years the c.i.a., and frankly

david ignatius writes that joe biden is the best candidate to beat trump. piece reads in part "joe biden's limitations on oo presidential candidate are too obvious that that are almost a lit any. he's too old, too white, too male, too touchy-feely, too loquacious. but he has one huge plus. he may be the person who could move president trump out of the white house. if the nom minating process produces a candidate who appeals to the party's base but can't defeat the ibt, it will have failed. none of these ideas matter unless a democrat wins. the dama the damage trump could do in a second term might not be undone for decades. in thinking about their pear's nominee, must be the country first. >> he yesterday wanted to lay out the narrative that i can beat donald trump and that we can't continue this way. we know over the next weeks and months he'll fill in those policy blanks. gene is also writing in "the washington post" this morning, his piece "biden may or may not win the nomination, but he knows the stakes." he writes "to be silent about trump is to tiptoe

along with joe, willie and me, we have mike barnicle, columnist for "the washington post" david ignatiusy kay and historian, author of "the soul of america" and rogers professor of the presidency at vanderbilt university john meacham, an nbc news and msnbc contributor. we'll start with the latest on the catastrophic fire at notre dame. officials say the

i want to bring in david ignatius from the "washington post" and a long time washington expert. about michael flynn's secret contacts with russia that sparked some of the very first moves, the probe as well as obstruction crimes. good day to you, sir, as well. >> good to be with you. >> david, what do you think about the interpretive side of this? we just talked about the law. then there is how washington understands this. ken starr took role of prosecutor and was obviously seen, i don't think anyone really disagrees with this, as putting his thumb on the scale with what he saw was wrong with bhi bill clinton. >> if people read the report, the fact that mueller has been so meticulous and fair and balanced in how he weighs the evidence should convince them in the instances that you're describing. in the 11 instances, mueller comes down saying there was obstruction here. this is a case you can take forward. and by people, not convinced of his bad intentions but republicans in congress and around the country. if they read that language, i think they're going to find it very powerfu

it is a spy school in which david ignatius himself has written about in the "washington post" that handles the cia, fbi symposiums and train these types of individuals. he then introduces me falsely to a young lady and one of them, approximately a week after my initial meeting with him who he describes as a niece of vladimir putin. to this day i never understood why he would introduce this young lady as the niece of vladimir putin when he himself has no sibling. and why, i make the case clear with the company i was working in one than the london center for international practice which also the link between was going along with it. they were telling me george, go ahead, go to the hotel and meet with putin's the. they are waiting for you. >> host: and that the only try to introduce you after you join the campaign. >> guest: they try to do this after i entered the campaign and that is part of my charge i didn't tell the fbi that this was happening when i was part of the campaign. >> host: because you forgot? >> guest: i didn't have my phone, my schedule in front of me. i should have done two

david ignatius wrote a long editorial yesterday in "the washington post" and he asked a lot of people a lot of stuff. that doesn't mean we know everything. but i think it's very important for our country to hang in there, and make sure that we do understand, and if there is more responsibility on the part of some people, that they are made responsible for what happened. it's atrocious and a violation of all the core values we hold. so on that note, please come back. please succeed. please succeed. and remember that you got a lot of wind beneath your sails. the wilson center really wants you to succeed. rep. mccaul: jane, you know, i have so much admiration and i a -- a lot of us that are still in the congress had such a strong relationship with her that often times, i can almost hear her voice. it could be scary at times. really a voice of -- you know, what would jane do? her advice over the years and her leadership and certainly her work at the wilson center so thank you so much for having me. ms. harman: you're welcome. thank you all. [applause] [captioning performed by the national

david ignatius is a columnist of "the washington post" who writes on national security, intelligence, and is the author of a lot of great spy novels, one of which was made into a great movie starring leonardo dicaprio and russell crowe, "body of lies." andrea mitchell is a legend in washington reporting, she is on nbc news, chief foreign affairs correspondent end is also the host of "andrea mitchell reports." i can hardly think of a time when andrea mitchell wasn't involved in reporting on intelligence activities in the united states. we have michael morell, our moderator, former acting and deputy director of the cia. he has been gracious in this last year in helping the hayden center as a senior fellow, he has moderated several events while general hayden has been unfortunately down for the count with medical issues. happy to announce that he will be joining the schar school faculty in the fall semester, teaching courses to our students and continuing to support hayden center activities. let me bring the panel up and please welcome them with your applause. [applause] >> good evening,

"washington ude post" columnist david ignatius news drea mitchell of nbc hosted by george mason about/2 his is hours. [applause] >> thanks, everybody, for coming. started : before i get i want to acknowledge a few other special guests we have here. first and foremost we have the current assistant secretary of of e for the bureau intelligence and research at ellen mccarthy. currentderful to have a employee here working the intelligence mission attending our event. attending tonight, former director jacobi. e have the director of the international spy museum chris costa here as well. or those interested in the spy museum it's reopening on may 11 or 12th -- may 11th. had the good fortune of visiting it. it's magnificent, if you haven't to the spy to go museum you will love the new spy museum. of lso have a handful intelligence officials here. dean boyd from the national counterintelligence and security who is and tim barrett the press secretary of the c.i.a. thanks for coming. ast but not least i want to acknowledge a guy that did attastic work for many years the c.i.a., and frankly spaw

david, over to you. mr. ignatius: thank you to nancy. it's a pleasure to be here. truly, there isn't a subject that's more important if we needed any reminding this weekend's gruesome news from sri lanka tells us that violent extremism is very much with us, that the difficulties of understanding it, being properly forewarned, and dealing with it are as complicated as ever. let me briefly introduce the members of our panel and then we'll go to a discussion with them, and then we'll turn to the audience and look for you to ask your questions. we saved 20 minutes to do that so please be thinking about the , questions you'd like to ask. first, governor tom kean, governor of new jersey starting in 1981, but really famous through our world of washington as co-chair of the 9/11 commission, an absolutely a foundational time for our country as it struggles to think about, understand, respond to that attack. nancy is president of the u.s. ip was an associate director of , the usaid running democracy, humanitarian, other key programs and now is obviously decisive in these ope

panel members to join me on the stage for the first panel and also to introduce our moderator, david ignatius, one of the most thoughtful commentators on critical foreign policy issues. he's a prize winning columnist for "the washington post," and has been covering the middle east and the cia for more than 25 years, as well as the author of best selling novels. david, over to you. >> thank you to nancy. it's a pleasure to be here. truly there isn't a subject that's more important if we needed any reminding this weekend's gruesome news from sri lanka tells us that violent extremism is very much with us, that the difficulties of understanding it, being properly forewarned, and dealing with it are as complicated as ever. let me briefly introduce the members of our panel and then we'll go to a discussion with them, and then we'll turn to the audience and look for you to ask your questions. we saved 20 minutes to do that so please be thinking about the questions you'd like to ask. first, governor tom caine, governor of new jersey starting in 1981, but really famous through our world of washington

whoever leaked that to david ignatius, they narrowed this down to a very small group.he washington post." and other stories. as evidence to kin to target the same people they leaked the story to. that's the circular reasoning he is talking about. brian: it's going to be interesting. also i saw the russian roulette book. someone was spoon feeding michael isikoff and david corn things come out a year later. >> jim baker the general counsel for the fbi jim comey's tied at the hip already admitted in a sworn deposition they had a relationship with david cornyn. you have to remember, brian, some of the media figures here are co-conspirators in this in sworn depositions under oath. i'm not making this up. can you read it yourself. the fbi folks have already admitted to it. brian: as a journalist you follow up on a lead somebody says hey i have got to talk to you about a case, you get your pen out. >> the problem corn is going to have, brian, is corn fed the information to the fbi and wrote this story anyway. he claims oh i gave it to the fbi for them to clarify very it. yeah