i sit on a couch for 90 minutes. >> rose: david javerbaum, as you said said the grand idea wasn't to undercut religion. what was it to do? >> oh, god, i don't know what his ultimate goal is. i tell you what i feel, and it's that for tall the fun he's -- for all the fun he's having at religion's expense, at god's expense, and then fun with religion, with god and our beliefs and the things we to in the name -- we do in the name of religion, with all that fun he's having, there is something so thoughtful about what he's done. i don't know david's -- i don't even know what religion david is. i don't know his feelings about religion, he could be an atheist, but he has given this topic such serious thought and for as much fun as he has, i don't feel he plays fast and loose with it. he has his own version of the serious discussion about it about the commandments, about what is this kind of being that created this. >> rose: is it satire? i guess to a degree. well, let me ask you if this is satirical, i'm sacksly not sure. it's god's come down and is having this -- as human type discussion as