and david jolly, a former membe. of the republican party as a member of congress from the ep state of florida. he has since left the gop. welcome to you all.t robert, i'd like to begin with you. you were doing what reporters do, working on a separate story, and i have my guesses as to what that was, dialing for dollars, looking for quotes and confirmation. you called the white house and asked to talk to the boss. he gets on the phone and after you dispense with the topic in chief, you get him going on some other topics. >> that's correct. president trump weighed in on a topic everyone's been trying to report today at "the washingtons post" and elsewhere. is this white house actually going to assert executive privilege and prevent former ex officials and current officials, people like don mcgahn, the former white house counsel, from going before the house judiciary committee putting their hand up inp the air and starting to testify about his conduct. white house officials signaled today this is where they were going,

that's also their job under the constitution. >> david jolly, i don't want to put words in your mouth, but did i hear you with nicolle wallace this afternoon saying in effect in your humble opinion the democrats have been caught a little bit flat-footed by the arrival of the mueller report, the tonnage in it and the counter report which is just short phrase aelg from the president? >> i don't think they've embraced the urgency of the moment. contrast that with if they'd framed it by being on capitol hill to receive the report and express to the american people we believe the president's broken the law and we need to hold him accountable to find and frame the issue for the american people. brian, i think what's going on today, donald trump is telling the american people he's terrified of being impeached. and this conversation about executive privilege it's interesting they told robert they haven't determined it. every president has claimed executive privilege one way or another, going back to george washington. as maya said there's a balancing test. washington claimed it over some nati

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eugene robinson, david jolly remain with us here tonight. gentlemen, i want to run just the shortest clip from the buttigieg speech on sunday followed by mike pence's reaction today. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> my marriage to chasten has made me a better man, and, yes, mr. vice president, it has moved me closer to god. and that's the thing i wish the mike pences of the world would understand that if you've got a problem with who i am, your problem is not with me, your quarrel, sir, is with my creator. >> i work very closely with mayor pete when i was governor of the state of indiana. we had a great working relationship, and he said some things that are critical of my christian faith and about me personally, and he knows better. he knows me. >> congressman david jolly, did he get that right? was buttigieg calling out pence's christian faith? >> as a christian, mike pence is missing what an important moment this is for the christian and evangelical community. but it's also an important moment for the country. we have a lgbt candi

this allows me to run wild inside the united states. >> the point you make, david jolly, after 9/11, the reason to bring everything together, all of these agencies into homeland security, which was an awkward fit for some and took a while to work out and to create the dni and bring all the intelligence agencies together in that fashion, was to eliminate what they call the stove pipes that prevented each agency from talking to each other. where would you want a unified approach, if not against cyber attacks against our country? >> well, that's right. and to your point and to clint's point this is where the president seemingly always fails to rise to the moment or the opportunity. the top line narrative from the president of the united states on this entire matter needs to be condemnation of russia and a conversation with the american people about how we will address this going forward. if it requires reorganization or if it requires the cabinet hearing that apparently secretary nielsen was asking for, that is the leadership moment. not to continue to talk about collusion while you're

>> joining us is josh letterman, former democratic congressman joe crowley, kimberly atkins and david jolly all. josh, you were there. what was the magic in the space? how was it? how would you grade it as a kickoff rally even though we knew he was running this was the hometown kickoff. >> not a lot of response about what he was going to announce. for someone who really came out of nowhere out of political obscurity, quite a lot of enthusiasm. thousands of people packed into a converted old car plant with rain coming through the sealing, people getting soaked for hours but not really caring, very revved up for someone that they say they see as a viable political candidate. we know that some of the enthusiasm we are seeing from people at his events is mirrored by what we are seeing in the polls in new hampshire, in iowa both placing third in recent polls and in his fundraising announcing he brought in a million bucks yesterday and another 7 million earlier this year. it's not easy to sustain the level of momentum that someone like pete buttigieg has had. >> this is a different kind of candid

but i think david jolly is right about a very important thing. in politics, there's a notion of salience. it's a meaningful thing. the lies that trump tells, a lot of them, a lot of people write them off. people get the notion that donald trump is per miscue was with the truth. if you can show them a lie that direct little effects something in their life, that becomes a voting issue. that's what salience is all about. that's what the democrats are trying to the focus on here. we're right to focus on them, but the ones that directly effect the real lives of real people are the ones that could actually sway in a close election in a crucial place, in a crucial district, could really make a difference. >> heidi, there's also something very precise about what the dnc is doing, very complimentary to what their field seems to be doing, which is out shaking hands, doing retail politics, this seems very targeted, this seems very technical. they've got their tactics, billboards, digital ads. is there hope that the eventual nominee takes this over? are they

. >> i agree with david jolly up to a point.ueller report is based on special counsel mueller's very narrow investigation. potential obstruction of justice and interference by the russians. i think that chairman nadler has it right. because his information is prodder than robert muellers i think they should continue down the road of having hearings. getting the unredacted report, and laying the ground wosh. i think that impeachment proceedings are inevitable, but because it is a political process more than a legal process that the democrats right now at least from the clip that you showed of chairman nadler, they're going about it the right way because the investigation and their investigations are broader and they should as david jo jolly said bring mcgahn and mcgarland, bring them to the committees and have them testify under oath and through these hearings and this process, the evidence will become so overwhelming that whatever taint there might be on the mueller report will be completely outweighed by the mountain, the avala

"the new york times" columnist michelle goldberg, david jolly and former u.s.ttorney from michigan barbara mcquade. barbara, since we are talking about the great state of michigan and you heard what was said there by the secretary of state, and she laid out those three categories. of the three in your discussions there with leaders in the state, what stands out to you? >> well, i'm grateful that we have people like secretary of state benson to take care of this threat because what i'm hearing is concern that the president at the national level is ignoring this threat. i think that he perceives that russian interference in the election in 2016 in many ways threatens the legitimacy of his presidency and so he's taking a hands off approach and in absence of national leadership in michigan at least there's been statewide leadership to step into the void and i'm grateful to do that in michigan. i hope other states are as prepared. >> representative, when we look at the thematics as barbara's talking about nationally, the president at the moment is equating the very

let's bring in david jolly, corrine jean-pierre, emily nuong.epresentative, i'm going to start with you on this. you have heard just -- we laid out sort of four or five issues here. which candidate will do better on most of these attack points? because we know it evolves as will the election. >> well look. i think the opportunity for democrats is to reset the narrative. we know donald trump is going to set a false baseline. he'll declare mourning in america again and probably going back to the great recession and ignore the growth of the obama years. he'll talk about a strong border but every single democrats running right now have the opportunity to remind the american people this is a president whose immigration policy gave us kids in policy, the health care policy to reduce access and the tax policy favors the wealthy. that is a message that resonates to those voters that maybe voted for obama and then trump. i think democrats are ripe to pick them up again in 2020. >> that's the interesting point, right? if these are the drumbeats, they're t

david jolly and washington post opinion writer jennifer ruben. hans, the big question here, what's the thinking inside the white house on this about why the president has put healthcare back on the table for 2020? >> reporter: the thinking is that they need to come up with something to be for something and not just against it. what you're hearing officials talk about is potentially maybe perhaps there could be a plan that could be unveiled before the election. what the president's tweet said is the vote will be after the election. lay aside the fact that house democrats will be charge of the house of representativ house of representatives. their line this morning seems to be comiif they have a plan, the not just ready to share it and/or defend it. but it seems like a lot of scrambling here from officials trying to explain just what the president meant. >> the big question is here is are voters going to be okay with a plan based on principles and not things that could be laid out. i want to go to nbc's rehema ellis who is in west virginia for us.

i'm joined by ron reagan and barbara mcquaid and david jolly from florida who is no longer with the party. on this use of the term coup, it's one thing to say deep state was out to get me. now he is saying in his crazy mussolini-style rage that somehow the military and someone was trying to overthrow him, he being the legitimate government. what do you think of the lingo? >> no surprise that there was no facts or evidence presented because it's an absurd claim. it's easy for us to mock his buffoonery, talking about a coup, but this is dangerous talk. you notice the people at the nra convention, they were not booing or laughing, they were cheering that. they were eating that kind of stuff up. it's a prelude of what might happen in the 2020 election if donald trump doesn't win. he talked like this in the last election and he is setting it up now. if he is somehow turned out of office, it won't be legitimate and his base, who knows what they would do if they thought an actual coup had taken place, let's say in the guise of an election. this is dangerous talk. >> it makes perfect sense. this

. >> this, david jolly, is the point. the mueller report aside, this was a scandal-ridden white house. >> sure. >> before republicans lost the house, trey gowdy saw red flags around this office. this office has been a flashing red light for this white house and questions about the process. for questions top end up coming from the cia, i've filled out those forms multiple times, as have you. the idea the white house will clear these hurdles and be scandal-free seems like the biggest fantasy of all. >> sure. i think why they are pushing back on the hearing and disclosing information, in a very general broad brush, the three most common incidents that trip your security clearance are financial exposure, substance abuse or infidelity. >> foreign ties. >> foreign ties. we already know the kushner business, if you will, is doing business overseas, soliciting money overseas. even after trump was elected, his family was trying to raise money from foreign investors into the united states. that exposure alone would be enough to tri

a lot of people, david jolly, left the republican party.re are a lot of people like him. >> you're running from the great state of california. we know that senator kamala harris is also running from the great state of california. a lot of women are looking at this field that has a lot of diversity in it, african-americans, women, but the white guys are polling at the top. biden, sarah sanders, o'rourke, and then senator harris in fourth place. why does the field need yet another, to be blunt, another white guy in the field? there are a lot. >> yeah. and kamala harris and i come from the same district attorney's office. i don't think anyone's identity should hold them back, but i think the next president should see all races and identities, but pass the mic to someone who can. i pledged i would ask a woman to serve as vice president. i would put forward policies that would make sure that inherent bias that exists or discrimination that exists in communities would be eliminated and that we would make sure everyone everywhere has opportunities

madeline dean of pennsylvania and david jolly.ds new light on how russian trolls were able to influence millions of americans and they got through not the truth. he didn't attempt to get through. they got through. what is being done to keep at it? the russians are at it again. back after this. are at it again back after this. drivwhat do you charge forer. online equity trades? um ah, i'll look into it. lisa jones! hey carl, what are you charging me for online equity trades? laughs/umm.. and do i get my fees back if i'm not happy? like a satisfaction guarantee? ugh. schwab! oh right, i'm calling schwab. thanks, carl! (click). wait, lisa! lisa... are you getting low costs backed by a satisfaction guarantee? if not, talk to schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. f

joining me former congress person and new dad david jolly. anish, to you first.ying to coordinate a strategy specifically centered on interference and the white house said no way jose. mick mulvaney said he doesn't remember. but does this dynamic surprise you? and what is it like for the white house to now pushback on anything since we saw the mueller report, and we know sarah sanders has lied and pushed stories that aren't true? a pushback story today, why is it worth anything if it was worth nothing before? >> the point is the president saw any talk of russian interference as a direct assault on whether or not he was a legitimate president. so we know all along for the last two, three years the president, every time he mentioned russia he said people are just mad i'm the president of the united states and they don't want to see me as someone who was fairly elected. so the reporting bears out that mick mulvaney would be concerned talking about russian interference with president trump because of that. i think it's also clear sources i have been talking to at dhs

thank you so much, peter baker, ayesha rasco and david jolly. >>> coming up, the fight over trump's tax returns. his acting chief of staff says democrats will never, ever -- forget the alibi -- not even talking about audits. you're never getting your hands on the president's tax returns. what's that about? but never is a long time and the law says the irs has to -- shall turn over those forms. >>> plus, barack obama warns democrats not to kill each other. >> one of the things i do worry about sometimes among progressives in the united states, maybe it's true here as well, is a certain kind of rigidity. >> the former president talking about ideological purity and warning democrats about what he calls the circular firing squad. that's an image. much more ahead on that one. stick with us. us.with a lot ofr young couples. then we noticed something...strange. oh, could you, uh, make me a burger? -poof -- you're a burger. [ laughter ] -everyone acts like their parents. -you have a tattoo. -yes. -fun. do you not work? -so, what kind of mower you got, seth? -i don't know. some kid comes over. w

national correspondent for pbs news and david jolly, first time back since becoming a new father. welcome. former republican congressman from the state of florida. roberto, i am going to you first. take me inside this story. using migrants to punish your p political enemies, it seems like a whole new level but maybe inside this white house lots of ideas are thrown out and what actually makes it across the finish line is what we should be concerned about most. >> it's jarring when you see the headline, but it's not jarring for my sources inside of the white house who say that steven miller, the president's top policy adviser and president trump for weeks have been trying to take control of the department of homeland security, frustrated with the migrant surge, and now you have these two people along with others who are allies in the administration floating these kind of ideas, thinking through a hard line policy, how can they make it even more hard line as they battle with democrats and look ahead to 2020. >> you have done -- we need to remind our audience the president doesn't hav

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