>> very good to be with you, nicolle and also david jolly. hello, david .i have lived here in this date over 50 years. i raise my son here, my grandchildren are bring up here. i can tell you i am very frightened for them and the women of the state and anybody who does not look or think like ron desantis. he is an autocratic bully. he ran to drain the swamp and then he has appointed some 250 donors to every political post he can find, mostly very right ring fingers. if you want to be free in this state, and that i think it's his message, you are only free if you agree with him. >> what are the contours of the battle and the state? it seems that he has some political, and jump in if i have some of this wrong. it seems like he is taking some political capital that he earned for keeping the state open during the pandemic and converting it to these hard right extremists agendas that are not as popular with an entirely electric especially in a state like florida. do you have that right? is it all about his national run for president in '24? >> definitely he is in

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david jolly, you might know a thing or two about this. to the state level down to my district is a wholly different conversation. david jolly, one of the things i was looking at the video from just moments ago. this president is only the third sitting president to walk out of the ten presidents that followed lbj in the voting rights act. why video and pictures like this when you go out and do image services are so important to see, what do you think that moment means for our history today, david? >> well, unfortunately it should not be a political question, richard. it is, right? if you look at the images, there is very little republican support for commemoration of what happened on bloody sunday. a commitment to move forward to guarantee the suffrage and franchise of the individual which is the ultimate test of democracy. and you do have to think through a political lange with bush 43 who i believe was the only republican or at least last republican to participate in commemoration ceremonies. if you are due to today would be canceled by

ashley parker, david jolly are back with us.around trump's indictment, the lack of desire to talk about it, what does it say about this moment in our political culture? >> this, at least from the biden administration, and obviously this is emanating on down to senators and house members on the democratic side, but it's been a general reticence, not to engage on former president trump. they didn't think it was particularly helpful at the start of the biden administration. there's moments where, you know, in the midterms where extremist republican candidates connection to trump has certainly helped democrats succeed in sort of that whole maga, ultra maga association has helped them, but they made a calculation early on that what voters wanted from democrats were tangible results, whether it was on the economy or prescription drug prices or infrastructure. and there's also a sense that when someone like donald trump may be imploding, it's best just to stand back and let him implode and a final point, i will make is from some of the

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we're joined by former republican florida congressman david jolly.xpecting from the former president tonight? >> reporter: right these realities are running parallel to one another. michael cohen is going to appear in front of that grand jury for the first time since it was impanelled by alvin bragg in january. yet, donald trump is coming and making his first iowa stop of this presidential run here today in davenport, iowa folks are already gathering here the idea behind his event is to promote his education policy proposal he's calling for the elimination of federal funding to schools that, in his words, promote gender ideology and critical race theory. he's calling for the end of teacher tenure for k-12 teachers he's calling for principals at public schools to be elected by parents. this is part of what he outlines as his education policy. of course, to note, this is not one of his traditional mega rallies. the question is does he attempt to address these investigations into him at this event that his campaign team would like to focus on policy, bu

, he's been playing with the logic and he got -- joining me now, florida republican congressman david jollyast is back with us. david, -- [inaudible] i don't know that this is necessarily a playbook for that. it's interesting, you and i have been around campaigns enough to know that -- what was tested in focus groups, this idea -- unlike him except like the drama. i'm like him, except i understand bureaucracy. i'm just not sure those things, even if they are tested, and even if voters say this is the thing you like about ron desantis more than you like about donald trump. >> no, for one very important reason, rhonda scent is it's just not the inspirational or angry person that has let up the republican base for the last six years. and so there are two sides to the same coin. one is ron desantis is disciplined and clearly many of these lines, as you point out, are prepared. but the flip side of that, he's untested on the international stage. and it's weird to think of the governor of the state of florida have been untested. but truly, this is someone who sat down with a boat who doesn't enga

david jolly, it's like you read my mind. great to see you., i walk away going them, i just learned from david jolly. great to see you. when we come back, from those cpac panels. parents with pitchforks. i just can't believe that there is a panel. what are we gonna call it? how about parents with pitchforks? that actually happened today. to the waning public support for into ukraine, our friday night cap is talking republican versus democratic messaging this week. and a whole lot more. when the 11th hour continues! was tired. not having the energy to do the things that i wanted to do. before dexcom g6, i was frustrated. all of that finger-pricking and all of that pain, my a1c was still stuck. there is a better way to manage diabetes. the dexcom g6 continuous glucose monitoring system eliminates painful fingersticks, helps lower a1c, and it's covered by medicare. before dexcom g6, i couldn't enjoy a single meal. i was always trying to out-guess my glucose and it was awful. (female announcer) dexcom g6 is a small wearable that sends your glucose

my political panel is back now hello once again to moniqu pressley and former congressma david jolly.mplement things like the stop woke act in florida but how do you think desanti and his anti woke stance i going to play out nationally >> it is too soon to tell, frankly, melissa and we are seeing a dangerou sentiment across the country we are seeing people who are interested in this whole ant woke movement. but let's be clear, every time he says we will fight the woke he means we will fight the black every time he says wil fight look woke in the legislator, he saying will fight the vote, we will figh civil, rights will fight liberal thinking we will fight women having a right to their bodies. and so using anti woke as tied word for this truly i just for the base because then it is that anything that the are against but is symbolize by it. so the issue really becomes ho many people across this countr will be so exhausted by trum and by all of his problems tha they will go to the next bes thing for their agenda i am not necessarily encourage by this new hampshire poll i think what matte

david jolly, it's like you read my mind. great to see you.you hear, i walk away going them, i just learned from david jolly. great to see you. when we come back, from those cpac panels. parents with pitchforks. i just can't believe that there is a panel. what are we gonna call it? how about parents with pitchforks? that actually happened today. to the waning public support for into ukraine, our friday night cap is talking republican versus democratic messaging this week. and a whole not more. when the 11th hour continues! h hour continues you may be missing a critical piece... preservision. preservision areds 2 contains the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies. so ask your doctor about adding preservision and fill in a missing piece of your plan. like i did with preservision. now with ocusorb better absorbing nutrients. moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite tre

former republican congressman and msnbc contributor david jolly is here. about the twin import of this story, the legal aspects and the political aspects. it is clear now that rupert murdoch saw the trump story the same way all of the left and most reasonable people in the middle and some rational people on the right did. he was just afraid to do anything about it. >> this is one of the most extraordinary things about this case and the discovery, what we have seen so far. it has peeled back the curtain inside fox news and it revealed it to be a place -- what insiders had told me that people don't respect donald trump. there are a handful of diehards who have an affection for him. as i reported in my book, tucker carlson was telling people he was voting for kanye west. rupert murdoch is on record in the depositions or in emails uncovered saying he thinks trump is acting like a crazy person. this has been true at fox news back to the days of roger ailes who used to tell people he hated it when donald trump would call him because he couldn't get a word in. ru

joining our conversation "new york times" washington correspondent mike smith, david jolly is still here. mike, it feels like the blunt ex est accusation against donald trump in black and white accusing him of seeking to use doj and the irs against his political enemies. tell us more >> look, this was a story that looked at the ways that trump tried to use the justice department proactively to go after his enemies. and i've always seen that type of behavior as falling distinctly into its own bucket there was the obstruction bucket that we knew a lot about trump's attempts to throw sand in the gears ever all of inquiries looking at his conduct. that's not the way the system's supposed to work and people can be prosecuted for it but there was this other bunt which, you know, for lack of a better term, the proactive bucket where trump was trying to proactively use the government's powers to target his rivals. and i think there is an insidiousness to that type of behavior that is distinct and it really shows someone trying to use the sacred powers of the federal government, and with trump we

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nbc's dasha burns is at the conference for us in maryland, former republican congressman david jolly,times" national political respondent, lisa lair, you wrote a great article on cpac, and you said that for rising stars, it's losing its pull. more of a kind of side show, right, than a feature act. what is what's happening right now at cpac tell us? >> that's a great question. i think it tells us that cpac has become much more of an event that exists on the farther fringes of the maga movement than emblematic of the debates happening inside the entire republican party. part of what we saw evolve with this event under the trump administration is it really became a reflection of former president trump's image and his movement, rather than a broader discussion over issues in the conservative movement and a place where many, you know, establishment politicians and very powerful republican party politicians would go to win over the conservative base. i think that effect has been heightened this year because the head of the group that puts on this conference is facing serious allegations of

and former republican congressman david jolly. it's good to see you both. congressman jolly, you've got trump still speaking live at cpac. we're not gonna play his remarks live. you are welcome. i wonder what it tells you that he's getting 62% of the votes in that strong? >> i mean, don't ever looked down on trump. he's still the front runner for the gop nomination, and to your earlier point, alicia, this is a man who crashed traditional gop orthodoxy on foreign affairs and national security. on blowing up the national debt and not worrying about traditional republican fiscal policy. and on using the leverage of the state for governments attacks against the freedom of press, against the freedom of a judiciary -- and the pendants of the judiciary. and he launched a culture war against migrant communities, black and brown communities, and the lgbtq communities. i would suggest that who are you are seeing now from kari lake who is at cpac, and rhonda sanchez and others were not, they're taking that entire doctrine to the next level. he has reshaped the party i

undocumented perso in your home or in your car felony with me now, former congressma from florida david jolly and debbie mucarsel-powell, senior adviser before we get into what is happening in florida, david, i am so struck by the fact tha you have all of thes republicans going out, doing the former president's bidding getting in line for them, send it to use the power of the government to look int progressive prosecutors. you have mccarthy defending him, even mike pence defending him. you had a number of republican on sunday shows today. i might have missed it, but it is interesting to me that we have not yet heard fro desantis, that he is certainly not out front and center doing the defending, and this does put him in a bit of a funn spot given that his core argument is everything this gu is but don't have the lega baggage. >> you just described a lot of people who are weak of moral character, all from differen displays that we see those who rushed to defend donald trump before they see what the charges in th indictment might be if wha happens also defending someone who clearly, we know, pa

right now joe biden has a lot of running room. >> former congressman david jolly, ali vitali always great to see you my friend. >>> we've got breaking news on the january 6th insurrection. there's a new decision from the justice department about who is able to sue former president trump, a hearing for a man accused of hiding explosives in his luggag kicks off in a few minutes. >>> another round of suspected poionings at an iranian girls school leaves dozens hospitalized. >>> an alarming medical mystery brings a new warning from the american cancer society, a lot to get to on "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish your friends and loved ones. let's roll, daddio! let's boogie-woogie! y'all wayfair's got just what you need for your home. let's roll, dad

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david jolly, your reaction to the private texts, emails at fox?er arizona was called. they were first to call arizona for biden. >> andrea, hard questions for fox news now are breaking into public light, not just for their entertainment hosts but for their news division withholding the very call of the results of the presidential election. as you know now that many of the people they were platforming as guests, that fox news knew they were lying to the american people. hard questions about the integrity of fox news. also, hard questions about their ties to donald trump, the person and the candidate. clearly shows were designed to promote donald trump for purposes of ratings. i also think that ties to kevin mccarthy and his decision ali was mentioning. this is a bad faith event by tucker carlson to whitewash this. kevin mccarthy trying to hide behind transparency doesn't work. this is part of his legacy as speaker of the house. this behavior you typically would not see from a speaker. but we have come to expect from kevin mccarthy. >> when you talk

is here with us at the table, former congressman, republican congressman and msnbc contributor david jolly is here and john patrick maloney, a former member of the house intelligence committee congressman, what do you make of this really tech tonic shift of democrats being the ones on national security to be able to tie standing with democracies to keeping us safe at home? >> yes, it's -- it's a real headspinners for those of us who grew up believing the republican party to be serious about first soviet then later russian aggression let's bear in mind, ron desantis is not at odds with democrats. he's at odds with mitch mcconnell. he's at odds with marco rubio and nikki haley -- >> the late john mccain. >> certainly john mccain, who understood how to stand up to aggression and so it really is a serious schism in the republican party but the stakes are what's really important, that we are now going to apparently have a debate in the next presidential election about whether we stay engaged in nato, if we stand up to vladimir putin or let him run wild in europe that's -- that's a huge choice t

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and with us at the table david jolly.s what happened. >> so florida under our di dimwitted honestly weak minded governor is on the path to passing permitless carry and what they have done is they are doing it in a way where they didn't really want anyone to notice what they are doing because they have pretty much canceled debate. they scheduled very minimal debate hours and they only scheduled witnesses for a total of one minute. one minute if you were to go there and debate and they are front loading with their witnesses so like me who would have been on the back end end up with less than one minute hey, governor, i watch you where you talk about florida is a state where woke goes to die, whatever the hell that mean, but the truth is that florida is going to be the state where people go to die because of this if you really believe this is what floridians won't, which over 70% do not, but if you really believe this is what floridians want, have the fortitude to have a real debate, a we're real we're hear ing, bu it in the

. >> so tim, we have former republican congressman, david jolly, tweeting out yesterday about trump's attacks on desantis. this way, quote, this is the message many have failed to deliver, but trump uniquely can. florida is now the least affordable state in the country, education ranks poorly. insurance prices, guns are on the rise, and desantis's unsteady -- significant loss of life. this is from a fellow floridian. is this a good thing at this point? at this point in the race to sort of position desantis the way trump has, to sort of create this narrative around him before he really gets the energy and the momentum going? >> i think it's a little bit risky because if it doesn't work, i think it can make desantis stronger. but here's the thing. it always works for donald trump, so why would donald trump worry about that risk? here's what he's going to do. he's going to go for the jugular, you throw the whole kitchen sink. yesterday -- whatever he calls almost policy heavy. the one -- calling desantis a groomer, he's going to a personal, he's going to go policy, is going to attack his

joining me now is david jolly, former republican congressman from florida and msnbc analyst, one of my favorite people to talk to. david, i'll start with this. because all of this has to do with sort of republicans in general sort of ignoring the rule of law. i have to start with marjorie taylor green. now, for america, i believe there's a go fund me where you can send her lunchables and orange slices for her field trip tomorrow toll visit insurrectionists who are in jail. as much as i have checked the internet, i have not seen any brilliant searing letters from people who tried to take over this country, but from a symbolic standpoint, what are your thoughts on this? what is the value and purpose of a sitting member of congress going and visiting people who were actively trying to overthrow the country? and how concerned should we be about the fact that she's making this trip? >> well, look, i -- i would promise i cannot get inside her head. i think what the nation should take from this is that the republican party and its leadership supports insurrectionists, is sympathetic to the ev

civil rights attorney and msnbc legal analyst charles coleman, and former republican congressma david jolly who's no longe parts of the republican party. david, i have to start wit you. just your reaction to today' breaking news? >> so, i think like andrew said, not a huge surprise. we saw the indicators that i was going in this direction. but that doesn't mean that thi would be a legal action, eve if convicted it might change the course o the election those cases might come out o georgia with fani willis, or ultimately the january six investigation by the attorne general. here's a baseline. a very important baseline on this, jonathan nothing that is about to happe should indeed donald trump's words be true, makes him ineligible to run for presiden of the united states even if he is convicted, acquitted, it doesn't matter he can still run for president of united states and i think what we know about donald trump is that he intend to and he will. and so then the question becomes, what is the political fallout? does the somehow kneecap his opportunity in the gop primary i think eric's instinc

normer part of the party except maybe a handful of people like liz cheney or adam kinzinger or david jolly who aren't in congress anymore and going to be consistent about condemning the behavior and the transgressions that go on here, and to say at the very base of what by want is a candidate and leader in the party is someone who has the basic respect for the laws of the united states of america, and donald trump has proven over and over again he's leading a movement that doesn't resemble a political party but more if you want to get down to the third world analogies, he's leading a republican party much more resembles that of an afghan warlord than that of an american president. >> vaughn, i want you to stick around i want to say thanks to cynthia oxny we'll have more on the indictment of donald trump after a quick break. before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. all of that finger pricking and my a1c was still stuck. my diabetes was out of control. (female announcer) dexcom g7 sends your glucose numbers to your phone or dexcom receiver without painful finger sticks. the arrow

also with us, former republican congressman from florida, david jolly.he news of a potential indictment? >> reporter: it certainly seems they have their talking points. they're rallying around the former president donald trump and attacking manhattan d.a. alvin bragg calling this politically motivated. take a look at a sample of what republicans were saying over the weekend. >> it feels like a politically-charged prosecution here. and for my part, i just feel like it's just not what the american people want to see. >> all the democrats hate trump. there are republicans that hate trump. there's a double standard. you can do anything you want to trump and everybody is okay with that, but you can't do it to biden. >> this looks to mek me like another example of the two-tier system of justice at the doj. >> reporter: you heard those same messaging points over and over again, two-tiered justice system, politically charged prosecution. not a lot of talk about the substance of the potential allegations that. in part because you don't know what this indictment w

and david jolly former congressman from florida. msnbc political analyst. welcome guys.again, mississippi the coverage of that important story. we're not stay on one theme here. i want to talk to about. let's talk first of all about the one sentence that andrew cuomo chested there. he's trying to blow up every single legitimate investigation into donald trump. he went even further saying that prosecutors are politicians. you just heard me rocha, the westchester county da saying that it's not what they're supposed to be. what's going on? >> i think it's hard to -- andrew cuomo is a man scorned. he had an ignominious -- and so the cancer is not the fact that there are some kind ability. the can't stories the underlying act. both for donald trump on himself. what we're seeing here are powerful new york men who are railing against a system that is holding them accountable. >> okay, we've heard of slight show from susan. it could be a loaded chuckle because at one point you worked for governor cuomo. give me your sense of his angle on this. >> i think he's just angry. i think

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susanville, percio republican strategist and david, jolly republican congressman from. let me tell you, guys i could see your faces as you are listening to all of. that they were, glum of not quizzical. like, what? if you are, you could point to some substantive quote idea coming out of cpac, but it would not even matter because the loudest ways in the gop or the extreme winds. consider the panel topics. consider those people you just heard. is this how republicans are effectively defining themselves? this must put all future elections of any kind for the gop in peril. i, mean david, doesn't make any sense to you? >> it doesn't. but this is the center of. control i'm not sure marjorie taylor greene's. correct and i think anybody in the left said they're coming for your, children matt gates was a spacing of insurrectionist themes, saying we're going to topple the federal government. but -- alex. >> that would bring him to. he'll but very importantly, his focus is on lower attendance and the people who did not speak at the event. but look who. days and to date is actually