let's turn to david k. johnston, pulitzer prize winning columnist and author of the book "free lunch." welcome to the show, my friend. >> thank you, michael. >> if these investments are legal, what is mitt romney hiding? all this suspicion being generated, cloud is hanging over him, now it's beginning to rain now. >> the question isn't about the iras, when he takes the money out, he'll have to pay the 35%. the question is, why isn't he releasing his returns? obama's a cautious man. look at the way he got rid of osama bin laden, you know, he took the action, but he was very cautious about it. well, i don't think they said this without knowing that there are years with no taxes. remember, 23 years of returns from '84 up until 2007 were given to the john mccain campaign. so there's something in his tax returns he's concluded it's safer and better not to disclose them. >> you think the obama campaign has sure knowledge of this. somebody's leaked it, somebody's scene it? >> there's an abstract, somebody testified under o