david kaczynski made two other points. he said if you execute my brother no one will ever bring anyone in again. the 1st approach the government about an agreement that was turned down. later he was told that it will be a good thing for there to be -- for ted to be arrested and brought in because he would not do other damage. worried. he was afraid that he had information about who was doing this and the person might continue to do it. and it would be better off for him. he took that to mean there would be some consideration. all cases where the death penalty is possible goes to that committee with the recommendation one way or another. >> what steps did you take for a defense team? >> we put together to defense team. i felt that in the office i was the one that was the most qualified to be the lead counsel although i had not tried a capitol case. i have been involved in various roles and wanted to get another attorney. i felt again that we should look within the federal defender system for a 2nd attorney. we had the resou

. >> david kaczynski's wife was on sabbatical in paris and saw excerpts from the manifesto. asing because david had showed her letters from ted and told her about ted's preoccupations. >> i think it's partly that the voice in the manifesto is a chicago voice. phrases or just the grammar, perhaps. >> the kaczynski brothers have been estranged for several years. when david reads the manifesto, he must confront a sobering realization. >> david recognized in the manifesto echoes of his brother's wording. david said the one thing that really struck him was seeing the term "cool-headed logicians." he said that's directly out of ted's mouth. there was a strain of ted's philosophy in every paragraph. it was becoming impossible for them to not push it further. >> through a lawyer, david kaczynski contacts the fbi. he submits a copy of an essay ted had written in 1971 to compare to the manifesto. >> it was very clear to me by the third paragraph, when the hair on the back of my neck stood up, that what i was reading, a 1971 essay, was identical in many ways to the manifesto. the bigges

i guess what i take away from it is a great admiration or respect for david kaczynski. he and his mom were estranged from ted because of ted's mental illness but they were very , supportive of him. and when actually -- i think as gary says it was david's wife who started saying could that be ted and then when he realized he thought it could be and he was just torn between this, on the one hand, this is my brother and if i turn him in what will they do to him and if i don't and he , is really the unabomber, more people will be killed. and he went through that horrible back and forth and then , with the help of this wonderful lawyer from washington, d.c., tony, came forward and it was the key to , this case. i don't know if the task force would have got there sooner or later but would have been awhile , i think. and david was given a rewardion -- a reward, $1 million, i think and he dedicated it to helping , other victims. he was going to use it solely for that. he and gary have become friends i think is a fair statement and have gone together to talk to victims' groups an

working with the information provided by david kaczynski law enforcement was able to obtain a search warrant for cabin occupied by ted kaczynski in an authorized area near lincoln montana. with what they found in that search law enforcement had enough to arrest ted kaczynski and the decision was made by the united states department of justice to bring the prosecution here in the eastern district of california. the decision was also made to ask for the death penalty. the defendant was indicted in april of 1996 and the trial began in the courtroom of united states district judge garland e. gorell junior in late 1997. after a lengthy jury selection process in january of 1998 the defendant suddenly agreed to plead guilty in exchange for a sentence of life in prison without parole. in our panel discussion here this evening we hope to discuss among other things how the fbi managed the investigation of such serious crimes extending over such a lengthy period of time in such a vast geographical area. we will also discuss the effect of those crimes had on their victims, one in particular. we w