the president can i think go the next step. >> thank you so much, david kessler. appreciate your expertise. >> thank you very much. >>> still to come, i'll look at some of your tweets and facebook comments. give me another one, katherine. what do we have? "smerconish, for your consideration, my twitter has become a clearinghouse for the -- this is eric bolling from fox. this is eric bolling who tragically lost his son. hang on. slow down, guys. "for your consideration, my twitter has become a clearinghouse for #opioidcrisis helping parents and troubled teens. we have thousands adding stories and ideas. we lost our only son to the epidemic." i know you did my heart breaks for you, eric. "i am trying to turn the profound grief into helping others and we will help you. #opioidcrisis." i'm so glad that you reached out. i'm back in just a moment. >>> hey, follow me on twitter. hit my facebook page and check out smerconish.com. what have we got? smerconish, i think michael wolff just showed his true colors and if nobody sees it, they're not paying attention. i'm not sur

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david swordly and matt lewis and jim kessler, the former legislative policy director for senator chuck schumer and brian maguire the former chief of stat for mitch mcconnell. good to see you. so david, you first. we have new cnn polling. not completely positive in the direction of what is happening here. 56% of people polled saying that avoiding a shutdown was more important than daca. while 34% say continuing daca was more important than avoiding the shutdown. but then here we are. so what do you say to the numbers? >> so i think, fred, there is a poll that you could find for whatever position you want to take in this issue. if you are the democrats and you want to fight for daca, polling shows -- there is polls out to quinnipiac and cnn and they all say americans overwhelmly want the d.r.e.a.m.ers to say but americans say it is not important enough for a shutdown or reauthorizing c.h.i.p. if you are the president, he's got 40% approval in the average is maybe 38% in some spol polls. that is not good. but he was only at 45 a year ago today. so the bottom hasn't fallen out. so everyone