joining us now, david kessler. a great source of guidance for us, here, over the past few months.o the biden ministration. doctor kessler, it's always an honor to have time with you. thank you for making time. >> thank you for having, me rachel. >> the president said, if you're vaccinated and boosted you should look at these rising case numbers and this current wave with concern, but not with alarm. i will tell you, honestly, i feel alarmed, looking at the hospitalization numbers rising so steeply. i was not alarm about the case numbers rising, because we have been told, and you have explained that the cases are more mild. they're not necessarily as more as threatening. seeing the hospitalization numbers going up so steeply, when the hospitals were already tax, i'm worried about that. >> so, let's go through what we know. first, cases are everywhere. yes, there is an increase in hospitalizations, and my friends in the icu units, they are crushed. no question, increase in hospitalization. i think we are seeing something fundamentally different. that could change, this could be due

david kessler, chief science adviser to the biden administration's response. i know there's a lot going on in terms of policy response, trying to to be nimble in response to this gigantic new wave. thank you for spending time with us sand sort of talking me down off the ledge. i appreciate it, sir. >> my pleasure, rachel. >> all right. we'll be right back. stay with us. it's time for our lowest prices of the season on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to relieve pressure points. and its temperature balancing so you both sleep just right. save up to $1,000 on sleep number 360 smart beds. plus, 0% interest for 36 months when you add an adjustable base. only for a limited time. >>> when you see cars sitting back to back at a standstill like this one you expect that the people in those cars have been waiting in traffic for a while, maybe even for a few hours if it is bad. you do not expect they have been stuck like that for more than a day. but that's where we are. hundreds of drivers traveling along i-95 in virgini