or republican the wrong way to go about looking at the scenario here to discuss this with me is david kirby associate policy analyst at the cato institute david thanks so much for being here tonight thanks for having starters and what do you say some people are saying this is the year of the libertarian you've got to have them really in our presidential candidates yeah that's right i mean nation building has been a complaint of libertarians within the republican party and it seems just transitioning from your previous statement that this idea that we should go bang is expensive and it doesn't work it has libertarians have been making an argument like this for many years starting to catch on in the political polls one other example of how libertarianism might be right at the moment but i think you know one of the things about it too is that it's not like i mean democrats used to be i guess you could say at one point we're the anti war party but i think that part of the problem is we're not really seeing that from either party anymore and i actually have a clip that i want to play you from ba