despite that supreme caesar like self confidence, ed clark and david koch got nowhere in the vote. that was the last time either koch brother ran for office. after the failed attempt in 1980, they instead moved to bank rolling other republican candidates instead of running for office themselves. this year, though, the bank rolling republican candidate strategy has fallen apart for them a little bit. this year in the presidential race, the koch brothers do not like the presidential option that the republican party has presented them with. david koch's brother charles has gone to float the idea that they might support hillary clinton instead of donald trump even though it made him basically turn green when he said it. a lot of republicans like donald trump just fine but some republicans don't, including some party leaders like the last republican nominee mitt romney, like party zillionaire donors, the koch brothers. they don't like donald trump or hillary clinton either. what they're looking for is a plan c. that is what led to all of these sort of pitful beltway news stories about co

the founder is one of the richest men in canada, and the father of charles and david koch. the ordinary members were basically ordinary conservative americans, as well-educated as anybody else. relatively young, 44 was the median age. they were people concerned about getting the government off the backs of the american people. that was one of the animated concerns of ordinary birch men. >> how would you describe the society's platform. prof. mulloy: more broadly, they wanted to turn back the advance of the new deal. they wanted to reduce the influence of the government in american life. they had conspiratorial believes, so they believed most famously that dwight eisenhower was part of a conspiracy. they were proactive. like other organizations, they actually did things. when you got their newsletter, you would be asked to write a letter, signed a petition. it was activism in doing something, rather than just complaining about things. >> did that conspiracy theory about eisenhower gain traction? prof. mulloy: not really. welsh would later disavow the theory, but it was a thi

the founder is one of the richest men in canada, and the father of charles and david koch.he ordinary members were basically ordinary conservative americans, as well-educated as anybody else. relatively young, 44 was the median age. they were people concerned about what a later generation would say -- getting the government off the backs of the american people. that was one of the animating concerns of ordinary birch men. >> how would you describe the society's platform? prof. mulloy: more broadly, they wanted to turn back the advance of the new deal. they wanted to reduce the influence of the government in american life. they had conspiratorial beliefs though. they believed most famously that dwight eisenhower was dedicated to a communist conspiracy. they were proactive. one of the appeals for people who joined the john birch society, they ask you to do something. when you got their newsletter, you would be asked to write a letter, sign a petition. it was activism in doing something, rather than just complaining about things. that was a big part of their appeal. >> did tha

david koch having, in fact, run himself on the libertarian party in the past. mean, you combine all of the factors and it starts to feel like maybe this libertarian party option this year, maybe it could be a bigger deal than it usually is. if only the libertarian party this year, with all of the variables at work, if only the party could get a little less fringe, right if they could get a little closer tomorrow what establishment republicans are comfortable with. if only they could make themselves more republican-ish than they usually are. particularly if they could do that with someone who seems electorally viable. today, gary johnson announced if he gets the libertarian nomination for president which is likely to do. he would like his running mate to be bill weld. bill weld, the guy who won all but six towns in massachusetts when he ran for reelection there in the deep blue state as a fiscally conservative libel republican. bill weld apparently agreed to be gary johnson's running mate if the libertarian party selects them at the national convention. bill wel

and first, david koch turns 76 today.e runs the company with his older brother charles koch known for donating to many political campaigns, mostly republicans. and the not supporting any republican comments and making comments that hillary clinton recently might be a better nominee than some of the republicans. happy birthday, mr. koch. "worldwide exchange" will be right back. ♪ ♪ (singing) you wouldn't haul a load without checking your clearance. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. (singing alougetting to know you. getting to know all about you... getting to like you. getting to hope you like me... is someone getting to know your credit? not without your say so. credit lock lets you lock and unlock your transunion credit report with the swipe of a finger. getting to know you. getting to know all about you... get one-touch credit lock, plus your score and report at transunion.com. get in the know. ♪ no, you're not ♪ yogonna watch it! ♪tch it! ♪ ♪ we can't let you downl

warren buffett, former new york city mayor michael bloomberg and billionaire brothers charles and david kochfor his take how to fight terrorism and this particular type of propaganda. we have a retired green beret lieutenant colonel. welcome back. glad to have you back. how serious is this new kill list? >> well, deirdre, anytime this comes out like in "inspire" magazine which is the magazine of al qaeda, we need to take it seriously. probably what concerns me the most, seems like al qaeda is moving away from their preference for the high-profile spectacular attacks defined them and more towards isis style of attack. isis they don't like terrorism. they like horrorrism, horrific violence on locals to achieve social control. they want you to think they're in your bedroom or your backyard. looks like al qaeda to prove they're relevant or more relevant than isis is taking on the same approach. deirdre: obviously bad business when you have two terrorist groups competing with each other for which one can be more inhumane. >> right. deirdre: is there a response that the u.s. government can offer a

about the libertarians though is that, yes, they run somebody every year and it never matters, david kocht they did have ballot access in all 50 states. to the extent sort of the lifeline is the idea that this presidential campaign isn't going to be the candidate we think it is. maybe the libertarians are your lifeline. >> well, who knows. look, i will say this with william weld running for vice president who was a two-term governor of massachusetts, gary johnson who was a two-term governor of new mexico. they were both very good governors. >> very popular. >> both republicans, former republicans. i would rule out the idea that they could end up getting significant votes? no i think they will do much better than libertarians normally do if there isn't another conservative candidate. the kind that a lot of people are still hoping for. i do want to say one thing, that i think with all of the ridiculing of the republican candidates, i think it's appropriate to recognize some of the courage and integrity of people like paul ryan, like mitt romney, like jeb bush, like president george w. bush,

maria: isn't it unbelievable, you hear about koch, charles and david koch from the other side. guy. same kind of influence behind the dems, tom. >> stuart, glad you brought up jobs. if you look at home depot numbers this morning, they beat on the top line, they beat on bottom line and increased revenues and forecast. that goes to rising wages, people invest in hair homes, do you think the election will have to be about the economy, stupid, the old saying? or will this be about this type of issues or about foreign policy? >> by the time we vote in november, i suspect it comes down to topic one, which is the decline of the great american middle class. the buying power middle class people today is lower than it was eight years ago. that is a fact. that is what politicians come to grips with. that will be topic one in this election, come november. there will be lots of scrapping around beforehand about global warming, climate change, et cetera, et cetera. women and minorities. those are other issues which will of course get a full airing. by the time we vote, it is the economy stup

the koch brothers are not going to support him. who else? charles and david -- is that true? >> look, the koch brothers generally in the past have focused on electing state republicans, gaining control, ejt legislatives, et cetera, et cetera. across the board it is going to be vital for donald trump against hillary clinton and the money that's coming in for our super pacs. he needs to start getting some of these people that you have mentioned -- and at the end what has hurt him is when a cruz supporter has felt the wrath of the lying ted. it's personal. >> but ted did lie. he did lie about ben carson getting out of the primary. >> jeanine -- >> that's bad stuff. >> but continuing that, and continuing it -- it's time to make peace. >> yeah, he won, now he's going to make peace. >> make the peace and don't expect people in 24 or 48 hours to say all right, all forgiven. give them time. somebody like that who has been a huge cruz supporter i would expect over time they will come back into the fold. >> what do you think, jeff? >> i think they need to move some of these big donors w

koch-- tim cook opening up. >> we have to run our commercials on your show though. >> okay. >> and out to l.a. now sh, and t is where davider has a first on cnbc interview with the millken can institute's global conferen conference. david. you know how it is? >> yes, i do. i work with that man fairly frequent frequently. and thank you, scott. i am joined by steven schwartzman the chairman and ceo of the blackman group. >> good to see you, david. >> and we have known each other for years, and way back when we used to talk about the private equity, because that is what people think about when they are lbos, but as an asset manager, you have moved way beyond, that and in part, it feels and may not be, but exits are much more prevalent than the entrance when it comes to the private ek wu ti business and not talk about the real estate, but is that the case or are you starting to ramp up to do the deals the way we saw you and your competitors do? >> well, on the exit side it is a function of what the marks will give you, and right now money is cheap. it is quite abundant strategic. buyerers like to buy thing, and so when they l