david koch was a partner with charles koch but charles koch was the driving strategic thinker, the driving force, animating force behind the corporation and the political network so as personally tragic as david koch's passing is to him and his family you're not going to see a significant change. the moment to watch is when charles koch steps away and chase koch takes a larger role. that's the question of whether things will change or not. >> thank you, sir if the final questioner go ahead, sir, please. >> yes. can you briefly comment on the koch brothers' effort to make considerably large plate political contributions -- throughout the country to state legislature candidates. >> absolutely. here's how i put that. we talk about commodities trading. koch affects politics in the say way it trades commoditied. it exploits its advantage of knowledge. so koch has built a map of political power in the united states. picture it like a complex pipeline network, you have your state, the court system, you have the united states congress. koch examines where it can have the most impact and where it c

it created a real feeling of being a bottle in the siege mentality, in the 1990s david koch, i think everybody knows he passed away last week. he said it is been picked up by all sides of the media, i'm glad he is dead and i hope the end was painful. [laughter] good for you, what do people think of him and is probably hard-core from the left, he did not say that when president bush passed away. outside of donald trump, i don't know that bill mark would say that about anybody. but it comes from the whole idea in a certain perspective that the koch brothers are the absolute enemy of the environment and everything starting with global warming. >> i see that a lot and it has made my job difficult to report on this company because there is an atmosphere of toxicity and hostility and bad faith and distrust and all the rest of it the first of all makes people inside the company extremely hesitant to share their story and extreme hesitant to talk. that's one reason the book took so long to report in a guess i suppose as a reporter in general i think it's extremely unethical for a general und

and want to ensure their government doesn't limit their ability to make more conservative donor david koch as one half of the koch brothers came to symbolize the influence of dark money in america but you know who's even better than conservatives that slipping the bills into their prodigy's pockets democrats according to this research a group called arabella advisors a little theme has been in the vanguard of the leftist money holds the shelter under their umbrella for nonprofit organizations by their nature they do not have to disclose who they're getting their money from but this research suggests that they've gathered a huge number of very wealthy donors some of the nation's largest grant making institutions including the rockefeller packard and koch foundations the donors to the funds managed by arabella it remains unclear why such large and powerful institutions seek outside philanthropic consulting but presumably a significant part of our bill is appeal lies in its ability to obscure large financial transactions these for nonprofits have been showering and to conservative grassroots

one of those groups, but you wouldn't necessarily know that group had anything to do with david or charles koch. >> because a lot of groups have these very bland names, america future fund or americans for job security. who is that really? what you would realize if you go through the paperwork, it was like a daisy chain of money. and if you were able to trace it back, a lot of it would come from this group of 400 of the richest, most conservative people in the country who work with the cokes and funded it. >> the may the koch rebranded with a new name, stand together. and in this incarnation, it says it's open to supporting democrats who are pro dreamers and antiteric. who matter what the name and reported orientation, it is sure to remain a potent political force. >> after dozens of phone call, i'm basically striking out. >> okay. it's a no. okay, thanks. bye. so far it's not going so good. the reason so many members of congress probably don't want to talk about this is because money equals power in politics. and to bite the hand that feeds you is probably not a good proposition to the people

you think people like david koch. f dollars that he gave away to hospitals, to art centers in new york. he's just one. ken langone. david rockefeller. andrew carnegie. the pure charity of capitalists have been proved our lives enormously. >> i sit on the campus of one of the great universities in the world. stanford. why did it become world class the last 30 years? because of silicon valley and all the money silicon valley generated and the hundreds of millions of dollars given to this university on an almost yearly basis. david: people could if they were just as greedy as liz warren and bernie sanders say they are, they wouldn't be sharing that money with anybody. but there is something more important going on. when you have success, you feel you do owe something back to the society that you were able to benefit from, no? >> yeah. well, yes. i would point out one other thing. why should we deny the billionaire who started particularly started something from scratch. the opportunity to do what they were born to do and

on theid a short piece death of david coke -- koch, who was a flap -- who was a philanthropist.nd think, that in our nation today, you could in-depth say, life well lived, you did this for the arts and you did this, and that would be ok. and i had to wake up to bette midler saying "f kay james." what are we doing? if we, as a nation, cannot demonstrate to the world what it looks like to live in a pluralistic society, with people who have a broad range of views and can have those discussions and do it in a civil way, then i don't think we can say anything. we have got to figure out how to do civil discourse in this country. that the employees at google need to learn that. dear god, they called me a white racist. they just assumed -- they did not even do their research to figure out who kay james is. and that is sad. i want to do my part. i do not want to engage in that part of debate or that kind of rhetoric. i do believe you can have deeply fundamentally different beliefs, and respect individuals who have a different perspective and engage in civil discourse. susan: third issue

probably would be surprised if they don't follow these issues closely that the koch brothers and of course david cook recently passed away. the coke institute and many of their organizations are also ideologically aligned with soros and his network because they have similar goals. open borders also provide cheap labor for a lot of the big business interests that are on the same side as the amnesty profiteers. nameswho are some other or politicians on your side of the aisle who also contribute to this? are a number of andted members of congress some of them have recently come around to supporting the trumpet enforcement agenda. it wasn't long ago that they also were behind blanket amnesties or pardons for the upwards of 30 million illegal aliens that are here. marco rubio was part of that. lindsey graham at one point. i mentioned the u.s. chamber of commerce. i also tread on somewhat dangerous ground because i talk about my own experience at cpac earlier this year which is run theeople who are part of close inner circle and they also have business interests and lobbying interests that show we sho

probably would be surprised if they don't follow these issues closely that the koch brothers and of course davidently passed away. the coke institute and many of their organizations are also ideologically aligned with soros and his network because they have similar goals. open borders also provide cheap labor for a lot of the big business interests that are on the same side as the amnesty profiteers. nameswho are some other or politicians on your side of the aisle who also contribute to this? are a number of andted members of congress some of them have recently come around to supporting the trumpet enforcement agenda. it wasn't long ago that they also were behind blanket amnesties or pardons for the upwards of 30 million illegal aliens that are here. marco rubio was part of that. lindsey graham at one point. i mentioned the u.s. chamber of commerce. i also tread on somewhat dangerous ground because i talk about my own experience at cpac earlier this year which is run theeople who are part of close inner circle and they also have business interests and lobbying interests that show we should have

they are still our own colleague ed koch used to say democrats or liberals with sanity, there are a few of them left over and they are residing on wall street. davidow, david, liz warren is smart, and she may say, look, i want to shift to the center. if she becomes the nominee. but she has put so many things out there that are far to the left. whether it's the green new deal or medicare for all. i don't see how she moves to the center if she becomes the nominee. >> i think i to some extent agree with you. bind may have to become the underdog to win. biden is more nationally close to where the electorate is. let me say something about elizabeth warren. there is a coalition down the line that maybe we can't see. this is a strange election against donald trump. all the rules go out the window. in terms of elizabeth warren, on the inequality issue. 40% of americans can't make it from paycheck to paycheck. if there is a president warren, on the issues most of important to wall street, tax reform, budget, healthcare, immigration, congress will in the middle of this and driving the agenda. david: if bind is out because of the ukrainian scandal catches up