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part is just that the messiah has to be a descendant of king david. >> during this time, koreshn the group. soon he has four. including david bund's 17-year-old sister, robin. >> he talked about the house of david, how he's supposed to have all these wives. so the idea was, you know, this appears to be of god. and it technically was illegal. but when you're in a cult and you've got -- answering to a higher power, you don't worry about the law so much sometimes. >> koresh learns that his former mentor, lois roden, is dead. and her son, george, is in a state psychiatric hospital. with the property up for grabs, he takes back mt. carmel and continues to recruit around the world. >> he drew people from england, australia and from the west indies as well as americans. it was a multiracial and multiethnic setting. >> why did you come here? >> because i heard there was something here that i wanted to listen to. >> what do you think of david? >> i think he's great. >> how old are you? >> i'm 16. >> do you think he's the son of god? >> yeah. >> as his following grows, koresh begins to us
part is just that the messiah has to be a descendant of king david. >> during this time, koreshn the group. soon he has four. including david bund's 17-year-old sister, robin. >> he talked about the house of david, how he's supposed to have all these wives. so the idea was, you know, this appears to be of god. and it technically was illegal. but when you're in a cult and you've got -- answering to a higher power, you don't worry about the law so much sometimes. >> koresh...
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david koresh was too.ed was after a certain period of time, both sides just lost any kind of trust or faith in the other. period. and then it became a pissing contest. it really became a territorial thing and neither side was backing down. >> i believed in the fbi as a kid, but they became liars to me. they just became, god, they fit the profile scripturally of pride and arrogance to the extreme and it was absolute power run amuck. and i felt sorry for them, felt sorry for the agents and the people that were behaving that way. >> after four long weeks with no break in the negotiations, david koresh meets with his legal counsel. >> that marathon siege in waco, texas, it might just be that the end is now just a short distance away. >> so far today, they have had two face-to-face meetings with david koresh inside the besieged branch davidian compound. >> dick advised us there had been a major breakthrough and david had agreed to exit, and he would exit as soon as he had finished writing his manuscript of the
david koresh was too.ed was after a certain period of time, both sides just lost any kind of trust or faith in the other. period. and then it became a pissing contest. it really became a territorial thing and neither side was backing down. >> i believed in the fbi as a kid, but they became liars to me. they just became, god, they fit the profile scripturally of pride and arrogance to the extreme and it was absolute power run amuck. and i felt sorry for them, felt sorry for the agents and...
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by 1986 he would change his name to david koresh. preaching the acopalypse, and ordering all women, including those who already had husbands and girls as young as 12 years old to be his wives. a friend said androtti was looking for answers and koresh seemed to have them. >> i think we were all just looking for a little more. it's no fault of the pastor or any member of the church. we were asking really hard questions, you know about faith and about the end times and you know, our walk with the lord. >> reporter: at the same time the dividians began stock miling weapons and ammunition in their caramel compound to do battle in their final days. >> he was very interested in amassing firearms that they did believe that the end of the world was going to happen. >> reporter: defectors claimed koresh was abusing children, sexually using teenage girls and growing increasingly irrational. >> when i was in it he did have several wives that were under 18. >> how old? >> from 12 to 17. >> reporter: a couple of newspapers brought to the attention
by 1986 he would change his name to david koresh. preaching the acopalypse, and ordering all women, including those who already had husbands and girls as young as 12 years old to be his wives. a friend said androtti was looking for answers and koresh seemed to have them. >> i think we were all just looking for a little more. it's no fault of the pastor or any member of the church. we were asking really hard questions, you know about faith and about the end times and you know, our walk...
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and of these branch davidian including david koresh seventy four people killed in this massive blaze there show i would just stop you there it is fascinating let's hear now from a life press conference being given at the moment free fire fight is in the town of west i believe we can listen in oh we lost fire but i think that there may be firefighters that are really valid or potentially along or. are still trying to turn mean obviously they were there on the right side of the fighting the fire and they'll be like the way we feel we don't know what hard numbers. how we feel we think you. might. be. we're still pulling people out of some of the homes yes people were trapped are they still for finding them i don't know we did find some earlier they still are going from house to house i guess find some people . but. i know that they should. be killing hours off not only the media. but other areas that may be affected or keep from additional and hard. a lot of it is ongoing and there is a process. amount of resources for him for. not only those who don't know where about a hundred. or a v
and of these branch davidian including david koresh seventy four people killed in this massive blaze there show i would just stop you there it is fascinating let's hear now from a life press conference being given at the moment free fire fight is in the town of west i believe we can listen in oh we lost fire but i think that there may be firefighters that are really valid or potentially along or. are still trying to turn mean obviously they were there on the right side of the fighting the fire...
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hear the name waco and this is in close proximity that's what they think of they think of the david koresh branch davidian complex going up in flames and so that will be an element i'm sure of the investigation but if you look at the climate in the united states immediately at this very moment we're coming off of the boston tragedy two explosions twelve seconds apart from each other at the boston marathon if you look at what else has happened this week we've had the rice in letters sent to obama and the two senators as well so right now there is a heightened level of attentiveness if you will in the country. so. while we can't say definitively i mean this could have very well been someone putting their cigarette in the wrong place when they shouldn't have the smoking but i think you're going to find an extra level of attention to detail that investigators are going to put considering the heightened level of tension in the united states right now ok well danny is now back with us i understand. can you hear us danny. yes i can enter thank you we've just been talking to shawn there about pote
hear the name waco and this is in close proximity that's what they think of they think of the david koresh branch davidian complex going up in flames and so that will be an element i'm sure of the investigation but if you look at the climate in the united states immediately at this very moment we're coming off of the boston tragedy two explosions twelve seconds apart from each other at the boston marathon if you look at what else has happened this week we've had the rice in letters sent to...
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waco it lasted for fifty days and then on april nineteenth they had enough of the standoff and david koresh set his compound on fire killing seventy four people including himself in the incident very high profile incident drew a lot of fire at the time and in fact a lot of people criticize the federal government in how they handled the situation because it had such a large loss of life at the time but brilliant images and what i mean i'm not talking in a good way but of massive flames coming out of that the situation as well so it's easy given the timing and the date and the types of images that we're getting to draw parallels but of course you know we can't say that this is terrorism we can't say that this is. you know faulty safety regulations we're going to wait until that investigation plays out before we can actually have any insight to what just happened here and what you think the american government's response will be to this given the fact this just happened well we do know that the white house the white house has been made aware of the situation and through a spokesperson at the w
waco it lasted for fifty days and then on april nineteenth they had enough of the standoff and david koresh set his compound on fire killing seventy four people including himself in the incident very high profile incident drew a lot of fire at the time and in fact a lot of people criticize the federal government in how they handled the situation because it had such a large loss of life at the time but brilliant images and what i mean i'm not talking in a good way but of massive flames coming...
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another six branch davidians and four federal agents died in a bun embattle head by david koresh who refused to surrender. >> abc7 news reporter is headed to west, texas, to bring us live coverage of the explosion with reports later today on abc7 news. she will tweet updates for us, as well. we will have continued you abc7news.com and you can f u on twitter@abcnewsbayarea. with breaking news developments they will be there several law enforcement agencies could be looking at two potential suspects in the boston bombings, one at each blast site. president obama visited boston for an enter faith service to pay tribute to the victims of the bombings. today, a grieving city is trying to he. president obama and the first lady joined in an interfaith service dedicated to the victims of the bombing and offered support and encourage m our prayers are with the injured. we will be with you as you learn to stand, walk, and, yes, run again. >> the cathedral was packed with victims, first responders, government officials and members of the community. there were prayers for those recovering from i
another six branch davidians and four federal agents died in a bun embattle head by david koresh who refused to surrender. >> abc7 news reporter is headed to west, texas, to bring us live coverage of the explosion with reports later today on abc7 news. she will tweet updates for us, as well. we will have continued you abc7news.com and you can f u on twitter@abcnewsbayarea. with breaking news developments they will be there several law enforcement agencies could be looking at two potential...
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agents and the branch davidian david koresh he set the complex on fire killing himself and these seventy three others to that was twenty years ago almost to the day one day shy of that then two years later so eighteen years ago in oklahoma city bombing the federal building the murrayfield you're building there also happened on this date and kind of eerie as well the sixty sixth anniversary exactly to the day of the texas city texas fire and explosion which killed twelve hundred people that was at a month santo chemical plant that was in a town very near to houston so very significant timing and very eerie as well when it comes to the day whether this has any significance into the investigation who knows but certainly interesting to point out to say the least and in terms of the community you know texas very well this is a very small town isn't it but collectively what the community be feeling we have seen sainz of people rallying strikes their way to try and help and then we're told by an agency officials actually please don't you know helping but what do you think will be the failing th
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where this takes place it's about eighteen miles north of waco texas which was made famous by the david koresh fire incidentally years and years ago however you know this is a rural area known for farming known for oil. basically not used to these big types of explosions on one hand now you know fertilizer is a dangerous component so people who live around these places are made aware of hazardous films that could possibly come from the area and then fact that's one of the dangers that we're worried about right now specifically and hydrous ammonia which has people in the area have been warned about and they are evacuating worried about the gas which can be deadly and can cause a fixation and then also grain elevators they're used to grain elevator explosions which can be very deadly and very devastating so there is even in agriculture in that industry the chance of explosions but when something like this happens it's very rare and of course it takes its toll on any community that has to go through something like this not shown you've lived in texas haven't you not liable to give us this thing s
where this takes place it's about eighteen miles north of waco texas which was made famous by the david koresh fire incidentally years and years ago however you know this is a rural area known for farming known for oil. basically not used to these big types of explosions on one hand now you know fertilizer is a dangerous component so people who live around these places are made aware of hazardous films that could possibly come from the area and then fact that's one of the dangers that we're...
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agents and the branch davidian david koresh he set the complex on fire killing himself and these seventy three others too and that that was twenty years ago almost to the day one day shy of that then two years later so eighteen years ago in oklahoma city bombing the federal building the murrayfield you're building there also happened on this date and kind of eerie as well the sixty sixth anniversary exactly to the day of the texas city texas fire and. which killed twelve hundred people that was at eight months santo chemical plant and that was in a town very near to houston so very significant timing and very eerie as well when it comes to the day we heard from the people that we've spoken to tonight about how these are their friends their colleagues the people they know they've grown up with it's a town of less than three thousand people and a very strong spirit and this is when things like this happen these people rally together so that they can help each other get through this area my colleague andrew fama spoke to world affairs analyst professors three round child they believe that t
agents and the branch davidian david koresh he set the complex on fire killing himself and these seventy three others too and that that was twenty years ago almost to the day one day shy of that then two years later so eighteen years ago in oklahoma city bombing the federal building the murrayfield you're building there also happened on this date and kind of eerie as well the sixty sixth anniversary exactly to the day of the texas city texas fire and. which killed twelve hundred people that was...
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agents and the branch davidian david koresh he set the complex on fire killing himself and these seventy three others to end of that that was twenty years ago almost to the day one day shy of that then two years later so eighteen years ago in oklahoma city bombing the federal building the murrayfield are building there also happened on this date and kind of eerie as well the sixty sixth anniversary exactly to the day of the texas city texas fire and explosion which killed twelve hundred people that was at a month's santo chemical plant that was in a town very near to houston so very significant timing and very eerie as well when it comes to the day. and we've been getting some sciences views on what could have caused the explosion at the fets lies a plant in texas professor christopher busby from the european community under radiation says there's more behind this blast. and hydrocele monia on its own would not be able to produce the kind of devastation that we hear is occurring over there it seems much more likely to me that like the other money i'm not great plant explosions in history
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agents and the branch davidian david koresh he set the complex on fire killing himself and these seventy three others to end of that that was twenty years ago almost to the day one day shy of that then two years later so eighteen years ago in oklahoma city bombing the federal building the murrayfield are building there also happened on this date and kind of eerie as well the sixty sixth anniversary exactly to the day of the texas city texas fire and explosion which killed twelve hundred people that was at eight months santo chemical plant that was in a town very near to houston so very significant timing and very eerie as well when it comes to the day. online team have been closely following the tragedies since the beginning lining up footage from eyewitnesses gauging twitter reaction and pictures of from the scene had to come to keep across as developments minute by minute. with more reaction to the taxes in a couple of minutes plus when we come back the letters that lays with the toxic ricin the which was sent to president obama and to all the officials just the country it was still re
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as is the case- we talked a bit about david koresh and the christian context- you know, the end of the world mode that we're seeing out there- amazing. well, let me finish up these graphics and then we can keep on going here. on the next roll-in here, or the next set of graphics, the last one i had here on the graphics is to tie it all up and say that doctrine is belief, ethics is the behavior, and the impact on the social dimension is real. and that's one of the lessons we want to take out of this class. see, it's frustrating that we don't get to resolve these issues- you know, we don't get to resolve them in a situation like this, but to be aware of them, and to try to begin to have some facility to speak about them and be aware of them. and one reason i wanted to bring up this patterns of action is because what's driving the patterns, what's determining them? well, it's that constant human quest for identity and relationships, and as we've seen in the earlier graphic, it's the obligation to perform those, and that can come out in a ritual way, it can come out in a behavioral way, an
as is the case- we talked a bit about david koresh and the christian context- you know, the end of the world mode that we're seeing out there- amazing. well, let me finish up these graphics and then we can keep on going here. on the next roll-in here, or the next set of graphics, the last one i had here on the graphics is to tie it all up and say that doctrine is belief, ethics is the behavior, and the impact on the social dimension is real. and that's one of the lessons we want to take out of...
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reasonable to say i mean i'm thinking of tim mcveigh and that was on the second anniversary of david koresh and waco and i grew up in michigan and you know i've known some guys who were in the mission michigan militia i don't know anybody who's ever committed a crime but these guys were serious about having a lot of guns and i mean twenty years ago they're still around what. it what's the ratio of white christians to dark skinned muslims who have committed crimes against the united states and does the f.b.i. as attention to the potential to mcveigh's of the world match that ratio when there are ten attention to the potential. fall of the times square bomber right so there's far more attention paid to islamic terrorism than there is to domestic terrorism and it is the result of that is kind of an exaggerated effect that there are so many more court cases involving islamic terrorism than there are involving a white supremacist groups or right wing groups but the results but the reason for that is that the f.b.i. is using informants in dramatic ways to troll muslim communities. offering them t
reasonable to say i mean i'm thinking of tim mcveigh and that was on the second anniversary of david koresh and waco and i grew up in michigan and you know i've known some guys who were in the mission michigan militia i don't know anybody who's ever committed a crime but these guys were serious about having a lot of guns and i mean twenty years ago they're still around what. it what's the ratio of white christians to dark skinned muslims who have committed crimes against the united states and...
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in the middle of the day in maryland outside baltimore and, of tell you, we had david koresh non-combate a look at the map of the u.s. and you will see where he has developed stuff. it is not that they see this as a growth opportunity because states need tax dollars. it is like taxing cigarettes. no one seems to mind that. not such a bad thing. just one. they're happy. >> you must have won something. >> having a good time. >> reporter: there you go. his tax dollars. liz: 67%. wow. on our fox business tax state. closing bell rang me in 14 minutes. as the weather warms up a man might be tempted to sun's profit to have spring cleaning with your portfolio. we will tell you which stocks to weed out right now and which to pile the fertilizer on to. it is a fox business exclusive. all that and more, yet. ♪ @ mowing your lawn isn't always easy. but maybe the problem isn't your lawn. introducing the all-wheel-drive mower from husqvarna. we engineered its unique drive system and dual transmission to handle hills& thick grass& and tough terrain& without losing traction or power the all-wheel-
in the middle of the day in maryland outside baltimore and, of tell you, we had david koresh non-combate a look at the map of the u.s. and you will see where he has developed stuff. it is not that they see this as a growth opportunity because states need tax dollars. it is like taxing cigarettes. no one seems to mind that. not such a bad thing. just one. they're happy. >> you must have won something. >> having a good time. >> reporter: there you go. his tax dollars. liz: 67%....
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. >> in an effort to take david koresh into custody, federal agents raid his compound, and a massiveire fight breaks out. >> six davidians and four atf agents were killed, and that started the 51-day standoff. >> it was a clash between federal law enforcement mite and withdrawn people who were fiercely protective of their community. >> you feel a bond with this community. the bond is they're fellow gun owners and believe in gun rights and their fellow survivalists and freedom lovers. when do you draw the line and say enough is enough? somebody has to send a message to say, you can't go any further. >> and mcveigh got in his little junk car and drove to waco, texas, to find out what was going on. >> michelle roush, a college newspaper reporter at the time, was at the branch davidian compound outside waco to investigate the story. it wasn't until one year after the oklahoma city bombing that she realized the man she interviewed on the hood of his car was none other than timothy mcveigh. >> he was very unassuming. he was very literally very casual sitting on the hood of his car, very ar
. >> in an effort to take david koresh into custody, federal agents raid his compound, and a massiveire fight breaks out. >> six davidians and four atf agents were killed, and that started the 51-day standoff. >> it was a clash between federal law enforcement mite and withdrawn people who were fiercely protective of their community. >> you feel a bond with this community. the bond is they're fellow gun owners and believe in gun rights and their fellow survivalists and...
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waco where it rose to it national prominence when david koresh's compod caught fire during the rd. a fertilizer plant eenvironmented in a massive explosion. at least 100 people hurt. two emt firefighters killed. there very well may be more fatality. expect that given the size of the blast. we just have not confirmed that. right now, area hospitals in that part of texas are being flooded with people being treated for all sorts of injuries related to explosions and severe burns. be againagain, a fertilizer plant erupts tonight. buildings nearby many blown to bits. a number of people badly wounded. the response continues. this has been going on now for about three and a half hours. 3:15 roughly since the first couple of explosions. and this have been concerns that other chemical there's may eastbound load. that also made some folks cautious and hampered the effort to get in there and help people as well. we will continue to keep you up to date on this tragedy tonight in texas. >> a federal court in san francisco tonight appears to be leaning in support of a state law banning the contr
waco where it rose to it national prominence when david koresh's compod caught fire during the rd. a fertilizer plant eenvironmented in a massive explosion. at least 100 people hurt. two emt firefighters killed. there very well may be more fatality. expect that given the size of the blast. we just have not confirmed that. right now, area hospitals in that part of texas are being flooded with people being treated for all sorts of injuries related to explosions and severe burns. be againagain, a...
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in 1993, a 51-day standoff between federal law enforcement and branch davidian leader david koresh ended 80 dead including 25 children when koresh refused to surrender peacefully. on the same day two years later, timothy mcveigh bombed the alfred murrah federal building in oklahoma city killing 168 including 19 children in the building's day care center. >> that attack was specifically designed as payback for the government's role in waco two years earlier. >> reporter: for those who hate america and know something of its history, monday had particular meaning. in massachusetts monday was a state holiday. patriots day, commemorating the first shots fired in the american revolution. during the battles of lexington and concord fought near boston in 1775. >> the real patriots day is april 19th. that is the date that counts for people on the extreme right in the united states. as it happens, massachusetts celebrates patriots' day on the third monday of every -- of the month. >> reporter: but for every conspiracy theory about domestic extremists or international terrorists, there is this fact
in 1993, a 51-day standoff between federal law enforcement and branch davidian leader david koresh ended 80 dead including 25 children when koresh refused to surrender peacefully. on the same day two years later, timothy mcveigh bombed the alfred murrah federal building in oklahoma city killing 168 including 19 children in the building's day care center. >> that attack was specifically designed as payback for the government's role in waco two years earlier. >> reporter: for those...
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end of the waco siege in 1993, after a 51-day standoff, authorities took control of cult leader david koresh'seople died in the aftermath. timothy mcveigh acted in part because of what happened in waco. one more quick note about the timing. yesterday was tax day for everyone in this country but here in boston it was patriots day which commemorates the battles of lexington and concord, the start of the u.s. revolutionary war. big day not only for the country but boston. >> what was supposed to be a celebration turned out differently. let's go back to new york and savannah. >> matt on monday evening president obama spoke about this tragedy offering his thoughts and prayers to the city and vowing justice to those involved. i happened to sit down with him shortly before these explosions and we talked about a number of things in the headlines. we began with the gun legislation before congress that many say is now hanging by a thread. >> i think we've got a good chance of seeing it pass if members of congress are listening to the american people so let's just take the example of background checks. 9
end of the waco siege in 1993, after a 51-day standoff, authorities took control of cult leader david koresh'seople died in the aftermath. timothy mcveigh acted in part because of what happened in waco. one more quick note about the timing. yesterday was tax day for everyone in this country but here in boston it was patriots day which commemorates the battles of lexington and concord, the start of the u.s. revolutionary war. big day not only for the country but boston. >> what was...
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>> cross between tony sap ron know and -- sap rano and david koresh. it is a gangster regime.y make money off of everything the state does. so what they want is not to defeat the united states. not lead some ideological revolution of the world. no. they want to stay in power. keep their business operating. they want to stay rich. that's what he's doing. all of his moves are designed to solidify his rule and to say don't mess with me, you mess with me, i'll go crazy on you. he does bluster and we do bluster back. that's really a losing game for us. because he can outcrazy us. >> bill: how strong -- whether it is south korea or whatever, how big is their military, how good, how strong is it? is it something to really -- >> the korean peninsula is the most heavily militarized area on earth. there is over a million men under arms on each side of the dmz. they're both quite capable. >> bill: on each side? >> together. that's a lot of people in a relatively small area. each side has excellent equipment. north korea tends to be former sow yet. former chinese. may be a generation behi
>> cross between tony sap ron know and -- sap rano and david koresh. it is a gangster regime.y make money off of everything the state does. so what they want is not to defeat the united states. not lead some ideological revolution of the world. no. they want to stay in power. keep their business operating. they want to stay rich. that's what he's doing. all of his moves are designed to solidify his rule and to say don't mess with me, you mess with me, i'll go crazy on you. he does bluster...