or he was a lunatic, because that's crazy statement if it's not true, or he's just a liar like david koresh. and yet, now the per version has come. the attack has come that this religion, the one religion that's completely truly based on love, that god so loved the world he sent his son and his son so loved the world he laid down his life so that anyone who believed in him could be in paradise in the next life. that's being called a hate religion. and christians are being persecuted. and for the first time in american history, america doesn't seem to care about christians being slaughtered and a type of genocide going on in the middle east of christians. and the prior administration made very, very clear their priority was not the christians that were being slaughtered by the thousands in the middle east, it was muslim refugees and that's why there's such a tiny, tiny percentage of christian refugees that were allowed into the united states when compared to the percentage of christians living in the middle east where the refugees were coming from. it's a sobering time, and it only makes sen

>> okay, i think you have to think of jim jones, david koresh, charismatic leader, believes he is specialelieves that he can solve all of your problems, and over a period of time lures people in to give him money and sex. >> well, he believes that but how does he manipulate so many women for so long into believing that too? to be branded? >> amy, you first have to sort of want that to begin with. you're a person that needs direction and so he offers that, and they're very good communicators and as a result they pull you in. they isolate you and keep you up for a lot of hours. so you sort of shut off the rest of your life and just become him. >> wow, you cut off your family. that's what we've seen happening. dan, we don't always see charges in these types of circumstances. but in this case there are charges. why? >> right. we hear about some of these things happening sometimes. we think, oh, it's so horrifying. this is awful. how does it happen but it doesn't necessarily mean it's criminal when people are agreeing to do certain things. what they're saying is different here is that there wa