david lehman. andrew school -- skull received his phd from princeton university and is currently distinguished professor of sociology emeritus at the university of california san diego. in 2015, he received the roy porter medal for lifetime contribution to the history of medicine. in 2016, the eric ralston award of a lifetime contribution to the history of psychiatry. his previous books include "madness and civilization," "hysteria: the disturbing history," and "madhouse: a tragic tale of mega mania and modern medicine." he has contributed to many previous documentaries -- many pbs documentaries. he blogs for -- and has written for the atlantic, scientific american, paris review, wall street journal, and the nation among many others. dr. david lehman received his medical degree from washington university st. louis medical school and completed his psychiatry residency at university of california san diego. he is chief of cognitive disorders clinic at the v.a. medical center in san diego and medical

please give a very warm autumn to andrew scull with david lehman. [applause] >> thank you very much for that introduction. it's a real pleasure to be here. i hadn't realized that warwick's was quite that ancient and that's a remarkable comp which meant and i'm so pleased that we have a bookstore of this quality in our community. so i'm very pleased to be with you tonight. the book that i just completed i actually envisioned if you can believe it in the early 1980s. it would have been a very different book had i published itn back down. i had my early part of my career first of all looking and the emergence of psychiatry and the rights of the asylums in england and before i publishan that book i tired of it because it was my doctoral thesis when i went around talking to those people they asked me what about the shutting down of the asylums and will do you think that's a good thing and why is it happening? and i said i didn't live in a 19th century, i don't know. i knew how much money and intellectual capitol was invested in the idea that the mental h

give a warm welcome to andrew with david lehman,. >> thank you for the introduction, it is a pleasure to be here. i hadn't realized like that ancient, that's a remarkable accomplishment and i'm pleased we have a bookstore of this quality in our community, very few places these days sad to say, have a place like this. i am pleased to be with you tonight. the book of just completed i first envisioned in the early 1980s. it would have been a different book had i published it back then. i spent the early part of my career looking at the emergence of psychiatry and a silent in victoria, england. before i published that book because i was tired of it, when i went around doing job interviews, they asked what about the shutting down of asylums? why is that happening? i i thought i've been there in e 19th century, i don't know. [laughter] i thought that is a big surprise. i knew how much money intellectual capitol have been invested in the idea the mental hospital wasta the solution too much on this so i thought that would be an interesting topic continual for those who went about in victoria,

david lehman. andrew scull received his ba from oxford university and his phd from princeton university, and is currently distinguished professor of sociology americus at the university of california san diego. in 2015 he received the roy porter metal for lifetime contribution to the history of medicine. and in 2016, the eric carlson award for lifetime contributions through the history, to the history of psychiatry. his previous books include madness and civilization, hysteria, the disturbing history, and madhouse, a tragic tale of megalomania and modern medicine. he has contributed to many documentaries including the pbs series of mysteries of mental illness, and also the lobotomized. andrew scull blogs for psychology today and mad in america. and he has written for the atlantic, "scientific american," paris review, the "wall street journal," and the nation, among many others. dr. david lehman received his medical degree from washington university st. louis medical school, and completed his psychi

david: the fact that they were listening to a 22-year-old? you went to school at the university of chicago. what did you do after you graduated? dan: i went to work at lehmanrothers. david: how long did you do that? dan: three years. david: then you went into the higher calling of private equity right? you did that for how many years? dan: 14. david: how did you get to know mike bloomberg? dan: it is a funny story. back in 1994, i was sitting in the stands of the world cup semifinal game out at the meadowlands in new jersey. it was italy versus area. a friend literally dragged me to the game. i didn't want to go. it was like 100 degrees. we took the bus. it took forever. we walked into the stadium that day, and i thought it was the most amazing sporting event i had ever seen. everyone was painted in bulgarian and italian colors. you couldn't sit down. i was standing there through the match, thinking to myself " you could play this game in new york with any two countries in the world, and it would feel exactly the same." then i started thinking about the olympics, which i had always been a fan of, and saying " why has the most international city in the worl

david: he went to law school at the university of chicago. what did you do after you graduated? dan: i went to work for lehman brothers. david: you were an investment banker. how long did you do that? dan: three years. david: then you went into private equity. dan: a firm that became oak hill partners. david: so you did that for how many years? dan: 14. david: all right, so how did you become close to or get to know mike bloomberg? dan: it is actually a funny story. so back in 1994, i was sitting in the stands of the world cup semifinal game at the meadowlands in new jersey. it was italy versus bulgaria. a friend literally dragged me to the game. i did not want to go. it was like 100 degrees. we took the bus. it took forever. but i walked into the stadium that day and i thought it was the most amazing sporting event i have ever seen. everyone was painted in bulgarian and italian colors. you could not sit down. so i was standing there through the match thinking to myself you could play this game in new york with any two countries in the world and it would feel exactly the same. then i started thinking about the olympics,

is there an f global, or lehman brothers, is this like enron russian mark that is what we spoke to david westin about. for a legal perspective, what does this look like, and how does that play out? >> it is too early to tell what is going on because of the technology here in the uncertainty as to the relation between the parties. it is clear that people who interact with the exchanges and platforms run the same risk as anyone who deals with counterparty yet it does not have counterparties. i think one of the questions about these proceedings which will be different is a new technology and how we deal with it. >> legally, let's talk about that. given the lack of regulation, the lack of understanding, you say this is an evolving space, and we are trying to turn out, have laws been broken? were they ever in-place to cover what is happening here? . >> i can't comment on that, but the law applies to every transaction, including digital asset. contract law applies. whether or not it is a bar of gold or a crypto, just because something isn't covered by federal security or financial regulation,

david: it made sense, even about it wasn't the right thing. thank you very much, hillary. our next guest the crypto world is currently experiencing a lehman-like moment with the impact of the fallout spreading throughout the crypto market. crypto bank genesis halting withdrawals. john lu joins me right now. john, if you don't mind, it is not the core of issue what happened here but this guy was apparently on first-term basis with gary gensler, the head much the sec. he would pick up the phone when gary gensler was calling or vice versa. do you think that had anything to do with his political cover and that is the reason he spent so much money on these political pacs? >> it is hard to tell but then obviously we have to look into everything. i mean the whole spirit of actually crypto is having transparency and everything he did and everything ftx did was not in the ethos of the spirit what crypto is about which is transparency and also having less centralization. david: the transparency, let's start right there. clearly the guy was making trades with customers funds or at least using that money in order to borrow more money and so much sew