what we had in that case, david lipsky, a stranger to david foster wallace, had written an account ofime and very subjective experience in his company as someone who admired, from a place of insecurity, fear him a little. david foster wallace understood the exact game that was being played because he wrote the exact sort of profile david lipsky did. it was like they were performing for each other. it was a very subjective take on someone just a couple years younger than the other, but perhaps wanted the life the other person had. charlie: i get more comments on that interview, it is in the top five of 25 years doing this program. the top five, maybe because of what he meant to them. maybe because he did so few interviews. james: having watched that interview 50 times, what strikes me, you seem to get along so well. at a certain point he begins talking about movies. he was reviewing the film. seems to be a moment of recognition, and my just about to critique the movie? he is a tough reviewer and then apologizes in a midwestern way. you seem to admire the quality of his mind in a way th

we had david lipsky who was a strang stranger to david foster wallace was someone he admired and probablyfrom a case of insecurity feared him a little bit. and david foster wallace understood the exact game being played because he wrote the same profile. it was two people performing for each other and one was younger than the other but perhaps wanted the life the other person had. >> charlie: i get more comments on that interview. of the interviews i've did in in 25 years one of the top five maybe because of what he meant to people and maybe because he did so few interviews. >> having watched that interview 50 times probably what strikes me is you guys seem to get along so well and at a certain point he just starts talking about movies. he's talking about shine reviewing a film and there seems to be a recognition am i about to critique the movie, oh, hell and then becomes conscious and apologizes and you seem to admire the quite of his mind that is wonderful to watch. >> charlie: much success. >> thank you very much. >> charlie: thank you for joining us. see you next time. >> that's where