anyway, the great david lloyd walking down the hall of cbs and paul came out of the men's room and davidloyd, genius writer, wrote mary tyler moore and taxi and friends. we were at school together. he said, do you remember what you said when paul came out of the men's room? and i said, i asked you what do you think paul does in there? and you said, that's where he puts his best stuff on paper. air? >> no. >> will not take us off of the air. on the contrary. it's a perfect segue. later, david said -- >> david said to him, your parents are owed a retraction. i think that's better. >> i think yours is pretty good. >> kind of wit got you sort of identified as the thinking man's talk show host. >> that's what you have been referred to? >> i had to be very careful to not get one more label as intellectual simply as i guess they figured he went to yale. he has to be an intellectual. i can proof to you the truth and that i was dumb enough to think you had to read the guest books all the way through. i feel sorry for anyone who thinks i am an intellectual. have they ever seen a real one? >> you g