i agree with a philosopher named david lubin who call that an intellectual fraud, that experiment. because it is so counterfactual, so unlikely to ever kirk, and clearly it is conjured up in order to justify certain behaviors. again, the reality is that when you are renting terrorist it is very rare that you have someone who is a confirmed terrorist. very read the you have a confirmed terrorist to really does, and you know he does, have an active part of this kind of sort that you describe. and then, of course, even if you do have all those variables isolated, there is no telling that he will actually tell you the truth if you torture him. if he doesn't go into shock, if he doesn't like you, and again to mahdi has to do is live you for all of it until the bomb goes off. so i think the smartest play for estate agent is to invest in other modes of intelligence gathering at that point and to invest in non course of interrogation techniques that largely to work, don't have the liability issues, and don't destroy people's rights as well. it. >> what kind of freedom did you have, academi