host: david maurer from the department of, and security office. we're looking at homeland security grants for states. they have been around for a decade now, since 2002. the dhs has per -- has offered states money to respond and recover from terrorist incidents. we were talking about the high- tech device the columbus, ohio god. and would also see in montgomery, -- that ohio got. and we also see in montgomery county, texas, a drone. if you have a drone that goes under water, like in columbus, and it can be done to aid in an underwater search and rescue event, it might not be related to terrorism. guest: many of these things are designed to be what dhs calls "all hazards. or they could be used to respond to a terrorist incident, but also to search and rescue and abroad for some purposes. there multi-purpose, in many cases. -- they are multi-purpose in many cases. when dhs makes the decisions to provide the money, they do not know specifically what the money is going to be spent for. the local community may communicate through the city government th