joining me now to discuss is david miliband.he is the president of the international rescue committee and the former british foreign secretary. you guys spent an enormous amount of time on the ground with these vulnerable populations, people who are often near near death, near starvation. is there any way for other funds to come to them? what's going to happen to these people? >> well, america has an incredibly proud and effective record of being a leader in global foreign aid. about 4 in 10 dollars globally that are spent on foreign aid come from the united states. it's also been a very effective, high value for money, spender with real rigor against diversion of aid. health is probably the best example. global health half you mentioned u.s. aid. half of u.s. aid spending is on health. and that's partly on lifesaving health care, which secretary rubio has said he wants to keep. but it's also mapping trends in ebola and fighting ebola. it's clinical trials of new drugs. it's basic health centers that provide primary care. it's n

now, even ed miliband, who is david miliband's younger brother, doesn't matter.lly backs heathrow. so much for his green dream. this is in the independent. how much is the independent tomorrow? >> just tell us the story. we've got a minute. >> the independent is free because it's online. i don't know what we're doing reporting this because it's in the independent. but the fact is, is there's no such thing as a green dream. anti—corbyn is not green. the more carbon you have, the greener the world is. so carbon neutral. carbon zero, whatever it is. >> that's a great point because the more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. not that i'm saying it's a great idea to fill the atmosphere with carbon dioxide, but the more there is i mean, that's plant food. so yeah, we see the greening of the deserts. we see plants growing better. it's almost like fertiliser and laboun it's almost like fertiliser and labour. labour got in promising cheap energy through all their green technology, and they're going to slash bills by up to £300. instead, bills are projected to rise by £800.