proposed stipulation decision in the matter of david millwany. >> this was on the calendar in the because a commissioner pull today because of the timing signed last month if we conclude to stick with the spondant before the meeting we gift americans time to decide whether they want to pooul full we accomplice today on regular in case have you if you want a discussion. that's why it is here. if is a similar case to item 11ch so curious to see what commissioner are machineo think busy this. it is different it involves 2 furthermore 700s and there is more income not disclosed. 700's were filed much later then and there in the other case and also this individual is on a commission this is not purely advisory it makes actual decisions increased the amount of risk for public harm in the case. that's yet penalty we arrived at is higher than reflect in the item 11. glad to answer questions you may have. >> thank you, mr. ford. the case are flowing together in this one there were remindsers to file the filer did not responds to? >> yes. that's correct and the first instance this was 2020 the dead