it's now called the wooden framework that's bring in our guest, david mitchell. he's an assistant professor at trinity college dublin at belfast and joins us from belfast. now 1st we will take a little bit of a step back if we can, which is soon as i said, this is all about stability in northern ireland for a special international view. as can you give us an idea of why this is so important? i'm so sensitive. yeah, i suppose all this goes back to braxton, ultimately in 2016 and the competing interests are on that were that you take over me and wanted to get as cleanly are out of the, of the you as possible. but because of the history of ireland and the irish border, and there was a great desire on the part of the e. u and the irish government and northern irish nationalists as well to avoid ard border order text security. host customs post on the island of ireland because that would have been so sensitive bars. johnston tried to square the circle by putting the order instead in the irish be and create these trade checks. what's known as the northern protocol. rea

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mitchell, a generous donor. $20 million. -- the telescope dome itself is $100 million and you can name -- we can negotiate the price for the whole telescope. davide they gonna name anything the walter massey anything? walter: i think they have some porta potty is now. -- porta potty's now. [laughter] david: while for people of earth -- david: the life for people on earth would be better when it's funded because we're going to discover there is life somewhere else in the universe? how is that going to make our life better? walter: i don't think it'll make life better in the sense of material comfort, material advantages. i think it is going to make human life more interesting and probably inspire people to think about their life differently. the artist jeff coombs, who is a friend of mine, says that when he looks at those images from the james webb telescope or the others that show almost the beginning of the universe, you see these galaxies. it just makes you realize how special it is to be living in these times, when you can discover these things and how special it is to be a human being. i mean, how improbable it is that there is something lik

mitchell. following up on what david was saying, staggering military losses over the past year.m-hmm. >> the best and the brightest leaving. you have the head of the wagner group yesterday saying, quote, everything is sinking. even military leaders are having to deal with reporters who are pro-putin, pro-russia, talking about how badly the war is going. now, vladimir putin has to put up with the image of joe biden walking around the streets of kyiv. >> you know, i can't tell you how emotionally and symbolically important that was to ukrainians. i was just with the ukrainians in munich at the security conference over the weekend. a year ago, everyone up and including zelenskyy were doubting the american intelligence which had been declassified. david ignatius, in particular, who is expert on this, knows how extraordinary the decision was, to warn the world of what was happening. it's played out exactly as america warned, except that we completely overestimated russia's capabilities and underestimated the resiliency, revolve and military skill of the ukrainians. so it's been an ex

andrew mitchell the secretary of state, to be fair has been banging on about this for a very long time , even under davidtioning why we were sending official aid to or to india for that and on the bafis or to india for that and on the basis of the same argument and that that's why he's looking at more carefully now officially . more carefully now officially. it goes to chinese students to get them to come to england. and i'm thinking , oh, what? so that i'm thinking, oh, what? so that means we're probably helping china's students at the moment by helping our own students . and by helping our own students. and it's going on british council activities which are there to promote things like trade . and i promote things like trade. and i tell you what, i think has actually been happening. the foreign office budget has been cut very substantially . foreign cut very substantially. foreign office and they obviously say budgets were some time ago they the two offices that combine . the two offices that combine. and i think they've just been shifting where they inherited wanat because i want to come back to you, d

andrew mitchell the secretary of state, to be fair has been banging on about this for a very long time , even under davidtioning why we were sending official aid to or to india for that and on the bafis or to india for that and on the basis of the same argument and that that's why he's looking at more carefully now officially . more carefully now officially. it goes to chinese students to get them to come to england. and i'm thinking , oh, what? so that i'm thinking, oh, what? so that means we're probably helping china's students at the moment by helping our own students . and by helping our own students. and it's going on british council activities which are there to promote things like trade . and i promote things like trade. and i tell you what, i think has actually been happening. the foreign office budget has been cut very substantially . foreign cut very substantially. foreign office and they obviously say budgets were some time ago they the two offices that combine . the two offices that combine. and i think they've just been shifting where they inherited wanat because i want to come back to you, d