became south africa's 5th black president, and both a lazy was made, the minister of hon. fis, it's david munoz. it is a political commentator and professor of politics for the university of janice book and he's joining us live from there. thank you very much for your time. so both the lazy is in cause of freedom party was implicated in south africa's deadly as violence ahead of that election that we mentioned in 1994. we'll see a war as critics have dumped to or vision re does. it depends on who you ask. indeed, it depends on who is saved his life. easy street is quite complex and healing presents the very best, the west of south africa, part of the site. if it does not, i do, and there is absolutely no single narrative about them in the united states. and therefore, the president put it quite clearly at the finger at all that he's the fairy, at the role that he played out to use for the history to be the greatest judge. and we have to wait and see. however, he has played a critical role. and at the age of 95, he has been given at taking the 5 send off via or political puppies, a unified south