gary dobson and david norris have left the dock quietly. yesterday he said, "you convicted an innocent man." both have been sent down. norris blew a kiss to the public gallery, which he has done several times as this has gone on. we have the two sentences. dobson, a minimum of 15 years and two months. norris, 14 years and three months. let's go to mr mansfield -- let's go to mr. mansfield. your reaction? >> first, i obviously want to emphasize the fact that this has been conducted as an extremely fair trial from start to finish, concentrating, as it should on the issues that the jury had to consider. the judge has been extraordinarily careful in elaborating the factors that he is taking into account. he has made it very clear. i also want to say -- it was an inquest jury that started this. they were the ones that came back all those years ago and said this was an unprovoked racist attack. >> michael mansfield giving his reaction to the sentencing of those two men, gary dobson and david norris. we will leave that story now and move on to othe

david norris was threatened -- charged with threatening behavior. his lawyer says he has been a sit-in in prison. this was a racially motivated attack but the murder took place before the law was made. these pictures show the dobson was 17. as a juvenile, they will receive lower sentences now. it is expected the murderers could sell -- serve up to 15 years before being considered for parole. >> the author of a book called, "the case for stephen lawrence" gave me his thoughts. >> they were under age. they were in their teens when this happened. you have to make allow for that. we do not give long sentences to teenagers, to kids. >> stephen lawrence's mother said it cannot be a case of moving on. what is your view of fell level of racism -- of the level of racism? >> i think the lesson for the stephen lawrence case, which we were taught by the lawrence inquiry, you cannot close the book on that and say we can move on. let's forget it. one of the big changes was that we understood, we had it shown that racism is not something done by extremists or the

david norris and gary dobson were detained at her majesty's pleasure. it will not be released until late 2020's but the earliest. -- at the earliest. stephen lawrence's mother reached the end of the trial satisfied by what justice had delivered, to a point. >> since this has happened, it may be quite low, but at the same time their hands are tied. for that, as much as he could do, i am very grateful. >> the court was crack -- was packed. the defendants said nothing while the sentences were handed down, though there was a shot from the gallery, "shame on all of you." he said they were totally innocent 18-year-old youth on the threshold of a promising life cut down on the streets in front of eyewitnesses' by a racist, thuggish gang. the judge told the men, your group if not actively seeking out a victim was prepared if opportunity arose to attack in the way which you did. they were juvenile when they were murdered steve lawrence and when the police put them under surveillance. under law, the received lower sentences to reflect their ages at the time, but

david norris had never been charged. >> forensic scientists began a cold case review. clothes taken from stephen was subjected to months of modern forensic tests. collected from the garment and the bags they were in. on this colorful jacket, fibers which matched stevens closed. on these jeans, a single hair matching his dna. >> a very small state on the back of the color. a microscopic blood stain. the as on his jacket collar. >> the dna profiling indicates that it comes from stephen. >> blood circled, fibers and hair that linked the suspect on the scene to the killing. despite the surveillance pictures, all of the suspects had to be released. detectives tried fitting takeover camera and his flat. he watched a group of friends and their obsession with knives. months turned in the years. in 1995, is desperate parents tried to prosecute three of the suspects themselves. the men refused to fully answer questions at the 1999 inquiry that produced a report highly critical of the police. even the latest prosecution has taken four years. but the case remains open. nine people

david norris and gary dobson are detained at her majesty's pleasure. steven's mother bridge the end of this trial satisfied by what justice had delivered, to a point. >> the sentence is -- it may be quite low. the judge's hands are tied. i am very grateful. >> the court was packed. the convicted men said nothing when the sentences were handed down. afterwards, there was a shot from a supporter in the public gallery. the judge said, is a totally innocent 18-year-old was brutally cut down in the street in front of eyewitnesses by a racist gang. he told the two men, they may not have held the knife, but that did not matter. your group was prepared to attack in the way in which you did. the pair were juvenile is when they murdered stephen lawrence, when police put them under surveillance. under law, they received lower sentences to reflect their ages at the time. several years were added to the total because of the racist nature of the crime. the judge also said he hoped the conviction of norris and dobson would not result in the case file began closed. ou

gary dobson and david norris were sent to prison for 15 and 14 years respectively for the murder of stephen lawrence. >> for the parents of stephen lawrence, justice was delivered today but not in its entirety. they welcome the sentences even though they know it is not over yet. they will now laid down in their beds and know that they're responsible for the death of my son. >> it might be quite logical not quite low, but the same time, their hands were tied. -- it might be quite low, but at the same time, their hands were tied. >> the court was packed. seats were given up for some of florence's family. when the sentence was handed down, nothing was said by the convicted men. for somewere given noup family.hen lawrence's he was brutally cut down in the street by a racist gang. the pair were juveniles when they murdered stephen. under law, they were sent to is not as the mature men that they are now but the teenagers that they were then. extra time was added because of the racial nature. the resulting sentences are shorter than the 30 years a modern adult murderer could have received. the jud

david norris and gary dobson are detained at her majesty's pleasure. steven's mother bridge the end of this trial satisfied by what justice had delivered, to a point. >> the sentence is -- it may be quite low. the judge's hands are tied. i am very grateful. >> the court was packed. the convicted men said nothing when the sentences were handed down. afterwards, there was a shot from a supporter in the public gallery. the judge said, is a totally innocent 18-year-old was brutally cut down in the street in front of eyewitnesses by a racist gang. he told the two men, they may not have held the knife, but that did not matter. your group was prepared to attack in the way in which you did. the pair were juvenile is when they murdered stephen lawrence, when police put them under surveillance. under law, they received lower sentences to reflect their ages at the time. several years were added to the total because of the racist nature of the crime. the judge also said he hoped the conviction of norris and dobson would not result in the case file began closed. ou

david norris had never been charged. this is part of a cold case review. clothes and evidence were subjected to months of modern forensic tests. clothing fibers were collected from the garments and the backs iran. on this colorful jacket taken fibersobson's house, which matched stevens closed. -- clothing fibers were collected from the garments. >> there was a stain on the back of the caller. it would not have been in the pants. >> whose blood was it? >> the dna indicates that that came from stephen lawrence. >> it was a breakthrough. fibers and hairs linked the two suspects to the killing. despite these police surveillance pictures, all of the suspects had to be released. the detectives tried fitting a covert camera. they watched the group of friends and their obsession with knives. the months turned into years. nts 995, stephen's paretn tried to prosecute three of the men themselves. the case fell through. there was a 1999 inquiry which produced a report critical of the police. the case remains open. nine people are still of interest to the police. the o

david norris and gary dobson were detained at her majesty's pleasure. they will not be released until late 2020's at the earliest. reached the end of the trial satisfied by what justice had delivered, to a point. >> the sentence that happened is may be quite low, but at the same time they have spent time. for that, i was very grateful. >> the court was packed. the convicted men said nothing what the sentences were handed down, though afterwards there was a shot from the supporter of the public gallery, "shame on all of you." he said they were innocent youth on the threshold of youth cut out in the street in front of eyewitnesses' by a racist, thuggish gang. he told the two men they may not have held the knife, but that did not matter. they sought out the victim and attacked the way they did. but they were juvenile when they murdered stephen lawrence and when the police put them under surveillance. under law, the received lower sentences to reflect their ages at the time, but several years were added to the totals because of the racist nature of the crim

david norris had never been charged. forensic scientists began a cold case review.lovis taken from -- clothes ephen were st subjected to months of tests. >> that examined clothing fibers and the bags that were in. on this jacket and his cardigan, fibers which matched stephen's jeans. on these from norris's house, a match to dna. >> there was a stain on the back of the color, a blood stain that would not be apparent to the naked eye. >> whose blood was it? it was on gary dobson's color. -- collar. >> it came from stephen lawrence. >> at last, fibers and hair length them to the killer -- killing. despite surveillance pictures of the subjects together, they had to be released. detectives tried placing a covert camera in dboson' -- dobson's flat. the subjects were obsessed with knives. [unintelligible] months turned into years. the parents tried to prosecute three of the suspects themselves. the case collapsed. the man refused to answer questions at the 1995 mcpherson inquiry. it was critical of the police. even the latest prosecution has taken four years. the case rema

david norris, some 11 months less.datory life terms, both lessened because they were juveniles at the time. >> one of my greatest hopes is that these people have now realized that they've been found out. and it is now going to go and lay down in their bed and think that they were the ones responsible for the death of my son. and they're going to give up the rest of the people so when i come out here in a year's time, and talk to you people again. >> reporter: in sentencing, mr. justice treacy said a totally innocent 18-year-old youth on the threshold of a life was brutally cut down in the street by a racist, thuggish gang. he went on to say the way the attack took place strongly suggests to me that your group, if not actively out a victim, was prepared if the opportunity arose to attack in the way in which you did. he also remarked, it did not matter if either of them had not held the knife, adding that neither had shown the slightest regret or remorse. from almost day one, these five gang members were the chief suspec

. >> david, do you agree with that. because floyd norris i think wrote a come in your paper basically suggesting that roey had this. he had-- had a ver positive record on charitable contributions especially to the church. >> yeah. this is not a good issue for romney. i mean romney does pay vastly more taxes it sounds like than bill brock did. romney pays a lot more taxes than the vast majority of americans do. he pays a significantly lower tax rate than most affluent people. as best as we can calculate it, and there are 30 different way to look at this, romney pays a direct federal tax rate that resembles somebody making about $80,000 a year. so that's higher than average. but boy, it's not that high for somebody who makes as much money as he does. and to the extent that if he is the nominee, the democrats can paint him just as jeff's saying, not some of as-- it's not shoot that he was successful, it's that he somehow is skirting the rules. and i think that is when you tie it up with the other bain stuff and the outsourcing and distrus of w

, and among those special guests we have today we have our board members of cnii,, norris, don arnall, cynthia and davidb also joined by tribal leaders across the country and some of those are the chairman gary and councilman eddy. among the federal partners of course we have the esteemed and honorable daniel akaka and representative tom cole, the assistant secretary larry and charlie bilbray from the white house, david from the senate committee, yvette from iehf, and aram plame from treasury. we also have the native organization partners earning stevens, a request from the housing council, and finally, i want to thank the native voice one and many of our trouble stations across the country for airing today's address and bringing the state of the indian nations to hundreds of thousands of people in the andean countries and beyond. this year we've asked an american indian active duty military service member to begin and to introduce president keel. it is my distinct honor to be able to introduce and to welcome the lieutenant governor of the bus marine corps in the u.s. navy judge of the ticket at the pen

president, chairman ron allen, chairman matthew, president ed thomas, chairman - norris, president done arnold, cynthia and david. we are also joined by the tribal leaders across the country and some of those are the german gary hayes and councilman nd salles less. among the federal partners of course we have the esteemed and honorable daniel akaka and representative tom cole. the assistant secretary, kimberly and charlie will break from the white house and from the senate committee and on dhs. ann plan from treasury. we also have our native organization partners ernie stevens, chairman, request from the housing council and many of our trial and radio stations across the country for airing today's address and bringing the state of indian nations to hundreds of dolphins of people in the indian country and beyond. this year we have asked an american indian active-duty military service member to begin our invest and introduce president keel. it's my distinct honor to be able to introduce and welcome the lieutenant colonel t. jay hunting horse who is a u.s. navy judge advocate at the pentagon. lt. colonel hunting ho