so we talked to -- we talked to david pang. i -- i have an e-mail from him where he actually answers my e-mail interpreting ego-5, and he says very clearly, ego-five is limited application. it's for -- it's for preexisting buildings. it says the risk shall not be further increases by proposing an inenclosure of a neighboring passage into the right-of-way. he's requiring them to create an open court easement, not realizing that he actually approved the permit for an enclosed egress because they hid from him that there was an easement issue. so this came to our attention on february 14. the deadline for this appeal, february 14, we received an e-mail from sufthe in-house lar from sia consulting. mr. duffy is here and will know this is extremely improbable that david pang would have thought that there was a recorded easement in place without having required to see it, so this following week, i followed up on this e-mail and i spoke with david pang myself. i confirmed that this is just untrue. he -- he would not just assume that th

pang, david pang, the plan checker on the project. mr. myers spoke to him, and told him there was an easement, and got him confused, and it was routed to the fire department for review. california law does not allow any egress to a neighboring property unless there's an easement recorded. there's no easement recorded as you can see on the title report. so my question is for this body to approve our plans and allow us to move this project forward. i'm available for any questions or comments you may have. thank you. >> commissioner tanner: excuse me, sir. can i just have a question. can you provide the agreements that you did reach with the other appellant, and what were you offering mrs. myers, what were you offering to negotiate with her? >> with mr. vendetti, he was concerned that we were going to underpin his foundation. we went out there, dug a test pit. he asked us to get an engineer of his choice involved and we offered to pay for it. we've been in touch with him for the last two weeks, three weeks, and details have been flying back