maliki met frequently with david petraeus, when the general commanded all coalition forces in iraq. >love to have tested the proposition of 10,000 troops and three or four operational commander might have given us the influence necessary to dissuade prime minister maliki from the highly sectarian actions that he took. >> 10,000 troops, a plan to leave a force of that size had been floated in washington and baghdad. it was a plan that never came to fruition. >> i don't know whether 10,000 troops would have given us the leverage. i actually suspect it might not have, but i would have liked to have tested the proposition. >> it was never tested, some experts say because of prime minister maliki. they reported that after iran made sure maliki was re-elected prime minister in 2010, maliki then turned around and did a favor for iran. he promised to expel all american forces before 2011 was over. now back in 2006, it was george w. bush who put maliki in office in the first place, so does bush bear the blame? richard clarke made a point earlier on in which he tells us what he thinks. >> if it

. >> general david petraeus was fighting the iraqi unsure again see. >> i said your policy is killing you cast them out of the one institution actually respected in iraq and now they have no future. >> many critics have pointed to bremer's two orders as the reason for the iraqi insurgency. some say they even led to isis. >> many of the people who are today with the islamic state on the military side are people from that army. >> who approved the order? for years members of the bush administration pointed fingers at each other but for the first time paul bremer gave me a clear answer to the question. why have they put the blame on you? >> not the president. >> not the president but -- >> no, the president hasn't. >> he approved? >> yes. >> george bush has never taken clear responsibility but bremer says the idea to fire bath party members came from this man, doug fieth was a key member. >> the degree was drafted and ready to be signed before i left, in fact, the day before i left under secretary of defense showed me the draft and said we're going to issue this tomorrow. >> paul bremer

david petraeus not so much. he can do a plea bargain.al decision heads you win tails you lose he gets to toss the coin is absurd. lou: sterling got charged with obstruction for justice because he had one e-mail from his list of e-mails. and they had no proof that he deleted it. hillary clinton has 30,000 e-mails. obstruction of justice absolutely. lou: the media is giving hillary clinton and the obama administration a pass on the whole thing. that's what's truly breathtaking to me. >> what may jump in. you know who's not though? everyone that i've talked to in federal law enforcement. indian diego i have friends navy s.e.a.l. dea border patrol. lou: you have lots of friends. >> india gondolas on lowest on the totem pole there. they know that their superior has broken the law. they also told me if they did anything remotely like this they would be fired like that and thrown in jail so we have to think about the morale issue on everyone below our leaders as well. lou: it's extraordinary the incompetent leadership. by the way it extends in

>> well, obviously secretary clinton, but more important general david petraeus testified not too manyays ago where he laid out his strategy of what we need to do, which many of us have been calling for for a long time. stop the barrel bombing, establish a no-fly zone, arm the kurds, get foreign air kro controllers and build up the free syrian army again. it's not too late. this flood of refugees is a direct result of our failed policy. it was a year ago the president said our goal was to destroy isis. we've made no progress there, and of course, we now see vladmir putin inserting himself into the middle east in a way that russia has not been since the russians were thrown out in 1973. he's maintaining his base and dictating the pace of events in syria, which, of course, is an abdication of american leadership. >> senator, with the exception of lindsey graham, who you endorsed and maybe to a degree rick santorum, none of the other republican presidential candidates are calling for such aggressive recommends as you are. in fact, listen to what your party's frontrunner, donald trump, tol

. >> she has done 20 times what general david petraeus did and they prosecuted him. we are now in a banana republic meaning a lawless countries where the president is able to dole out prosecutions, a book critical of the regime, he goes to jail, general david petraeus is critical of iraq answers and gaza was a terror attack he somehow gets dinged for this and prosecuted for the same thing but hillary's was far worse and no prosecution, she knew the law, the white house knew the law, national security team in the law and president obama said on 60 minutes he did not believe she was hacked and today the aid he says maybe and we already know there's a report that says her e-mails were up for sales though she was act. >> they all have to hedge their bets. i need your brilliant mind again. suspected drunk driver tracked down while live streaming dangerous drive on her smart phone. police say they are arrested 23-year-old after getting phone calls about a possible front driver using a periscope. that is an apps that allows people to record and broadcast live video to users

why wasn't david petraeus well? why not leon panetta, the former defense secretary, because there were intersecting lines of authority. hillary clinton played a minimal role.>> moderator: the source is that there were more emails to her than any other source of information.>> the only other thing is, why was his input a little sketchy? did he have business interests? that is something the left is good at reminding us of. when somebody has money at stake, sometimes you want to take what they say with a grain of salt. it seems like hillary put a lot of credibility in blumenthal. >> the only kate -- the only thing that came of her -- of his memos, there was no change in policy. so what is all the ones we haven't seen? it strikes me that you pass along something as a courtesy and you get it off your plate and put it onto somebody blumenthal is a good friend and she's not walking away from that. chief adviser on libya? no way.>> moderator: former secretary clinton's credibility or chairman gaddis credibility?>> hillary.

anthony: we are pleased to welcome general davis -- david petraeus. thank you for being here. how important is your education? >> in part, it is just a selection to get to an elite university, i took a tremendous amount away from going to graduate school at princeton. in part, because i had not been in an economical world, i was doing premed. you? >> west point have a homeland -- a mix of emphasis on academic approaches, but it was also focused on leadership and academic abilities. every soldiers first responsibility is to be physically fit and mentally tough and those kinds of qualities, all of that is graded at west point. at princeton, it was about intellectual rigor and i benefited from it, including developing a degree of humility, which is a great quality to have. none of us is greater than all of us. there are a ton of brilliant people who see the world through a different lens than i do. >> we once talk about thomas hobbes and the work that influence you, what are some of the recent writings that you today? between fictional works and biographies, i just it is a wonder

are -- >> just quickly pointed out david petraeus the great military general, but the cia director. >> if mr. obama actually knows there was no security implication of this, then presumably mr. biden knows that. on the other hand, if the president was firing a shot acrow the bow at the fbi, he's worried that perhaps mr. biden has information about legal jeopardy that hillary clinton is in. >> man, that is complicated. we're going to get back to biden in a moment, but i want to pick up on hillary clinton and the debate. by all can see she had a strong debade and stade yesterday a trouble. there was one curious moment when she was asked about which of her enemies she was most here is the answer. >> well, in addition to the nra, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republicans. >> the iranians and the republicans. chuck, afterwards clinton said she was just kidding. was she? >> well, i don't think so. i think she feels very much hostile to the republicans and they feel very hostile to her. what struck me there was the question is what's your on

we already knew what happened to david petraeus. the allegations for hillary are far worse. >> they are. what we understand now is that the fbi's very focused on a provision of the espionage act that's 18 u.s. code 793 subsection f. this deals with the gross negligence in the handling of classified information. so in other words, if an official has a security clearance and has this information they act so irresponsibly that the information is compromised. >> hillary's first statement was very clear -- i never sent or received classified e-mails. then it became never knowingly sent or received -- >> right. then they were not marked. but the bottom line -- it doesn't matter what the markings ar content that matters. and in these cases these whistle blowers were prosecuted and it was not classified or it was not marked classified. the question is will the law be applied in a universal way so that there is not a double standard, a law for the common guy, then a law for the politically elite like mrs. clinton. >>> joining us with reactio

former cia officer jeffrey sterling faced two decades in prison, while former cia director general david petraeusgot two years probation for similar charges. radack writes -- "petraeus, who gave a far greater volume of classified and potentially harmful information to his mistress, was given a sweetheart plea deal and was never charged with anything. conveniently, his sweetheart plea deal was to a misdemeanor not under the espionage act. similarly, former cia directors leon e. panetta and john o. brennan, both of whom disclosed the identities of undercover operatives, were never charged." norman solomon, can you talk about this difference and how people are treated? >> this entire episode, which continues with jeffrey sterling, is part of a huge pattern of and then prosecution in the case of leon panetta, selective sentencing in terms of general david petraeus. and it shows how the entire judicial and executive branch process in terms of assessing a prosecuting classified leaks is just riddled with pollution and poisoned by political power. this administration, worse than any other in memory in t

. >> rose: former general cia director david petraeus temped, i believe last week i believe last week before the congress. recommended two things. one more effort on the political side. >> uh-huh. >> rose: the necessity of having more forces against isil, and creating these safe zones. does that strike you as a wise policy and an achievable policy. >> well, i think they are very resource intensive. and i think you would have some of david petraeus's military colleagues say that to actually have a safe zone, to undertake the protection of that safe zone, particularly in as complex an environment as syria, when it's very hard to tell who is fighting who, to actually undertake the protection of that zone, can be quite a hard undertaking. >> rose: there is from philip gordon who was white house coordinator of the middle east and north africa and gulf region and advise the president of syria. he said this in political magazine on the 25th of september. the essential problem with u.s.-syria policy since the start of the crisis has been the mismatch between object-- objectives and names. the

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i'm talking about david petraeus. plenty of people at the defense department.question is, why haven't those folks been called? and don't you worry that that has helped create this atmosphere that somehow you guys are only focused on hillary clinton? >> well, i think there's a couple of things that are going on. number one, the investigation is ongoing. so in all likelihood, those individuals are going to be called. and here's an important point, though, at the very beginning of this hearing process, trey gowdy, the chairman of the committee, went to elijah cummings, the ranking democrat, and he made this offer. he said, elijah, you reach out to the clinton campaign, you choose the date she comes in. all we ask is the documents we've requested and 30 days to review them. because it was obvious she was going to run for president and also it would be inconvenient for everybody if she's in the midst of a presidential campaign. so where does the fault lie for the timing of this? it lies at the state department, who only 36 hours ago has released some of ambassador s

. >> if the fbi holds hillary clinton to the statement standard it held david petraeus and others inhandling classified information, it seems to me that she should at least have to cop to a misdemeanor. i mean, she had the clear intent to evade the freedom of information act. the federal records act, and she didn't -- and she knew that classified information was very likely to come across that server. that's mishandling classified information. why wouldn't the fbi act on that? >> jim comey is a very political director. this is the future, they believe the future president of the united states. she's been held to an entirely different standard than director petraeus, director deutsche, and so on. i think it's simple politics. this is a corruption of the system. >> so, kim, does this mean that the democratic party now, with hillary clinton clearly the leading candidate, are they all going to marshal forced around her and she'll be able to march to the nomination with ease? >> dan's point is actually really important in that bernie sanders is not going to win this nomination. but he is

do we have everything because we have become aware of emails early in her tenure with david petraeus that were not turned over to us. questions inside the government and he can term questions about what she turned over and whether it was complete and whether there was some directive to cut the backup. bill: who on this side of the government is pushing this story now. is it the f.b.i.? are they doing it? >> i don't know if the f.b.i. is pushing the story. i think they are making further inroad in their investigation. they requested this information from the connecticut-based firm. so the f.b.i. has been moving ahead even as now over the past receive days the media have been consumed with this rather foolish comment from kevin mccarthy that makes the investigation look political when in fact trey gowdy did everything he possibly could to keep it from being political. bill: steven hayes, thank you. sorry for that leading in the question. martha: first it was syria, now vladimir putin could expand his isis offensive into iraq at their request. the iraqi government is asking the russian

the leaders of our government, that was part of the reason -- >> without violating any -- >> david petraeuson't want to violate anything confidential, but i'll tell you this. it was clear from the earliest moments after that attack that everyone on the ground and everyone closest to that attack knew almost instantly that this was an organized effort, not part of a spontaneous uprising. and there was never, ever any evidence that it had anything to do with a video produced by some guy out in california. for them to further that narrative and continue to do so well after it was clear that wasn't the case was unacceptable. the american people deserve better, and the families of those victims of benghazi deserve better. >> at one point, senator, it appeared that the candidates somed to be debating the moderators more than'm other. jeb bush this morning said he didn't think it was a fair debate. what is your assessment of the debate last night? >> i was disappointed, because i thought krcnbc is a station whe they go into conversations about economics and i thought we were going to talk about how

disclosure my son and an file agent and this takes place this the context conditioned by the david petraeus case where similarities --. >> that is the from american general but he was c.i.a. director. go ahead. >> if president obama actually knows this was no national security implication, presumably mr. biden knows that. on the other hand, if the president was firing a shot across the bow at the f.b.i. it is because he is worried and perhaps mr. biden has information about legal jeopardy that hillary clinton is in. >> that is complicated. we get back do biden this a meant but i want to pick up on hillary clinton and the debate. she had a strong debate by all accounts and steadied a campaign that seemed to be in some trouble but one curious moment weapon she was asked about which of her enemies she was most proud of. >> in addition to the n.r.a., the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranian iranians...probably the republicans. >> the iranians and the republicans. after, she was just kidding. was she? >> i don't think so. i think she feels very much hostile to the republic

since then we have learned about email exchanges with colonel david petraeus in january and february 2009 about business, personnel moves in the obama administration. this letter from the statute department to david kendall is saying, look, you need to certify whether or not she really turned over all of these federal records. why is that important? this august hillary clinton signed a document in which she certified under the penalty of perjury that she had turned over all federal records. what's interesting is you see hillary clinton going on offense today. she put out an ad focus canned on kevin mccarthy with that gaffe that suggested the goal of the benghazi committee and the house is all about, you see the ad right there. beating up on hillary clinton politically. she wants to jump on that and say this is partisan. she is going to score points on that. on the other hand though, when you have an fbi criminal investigation that is not partisan and overseen by the obama justice department and now you have the obama state department saying wait a second maybe not everything was turn

look at david petraeus. how does she skate given what they did with petraeus and others? it doesn't matter if it is marked classified. signed your paperwork and you have an oath that you will protect classified information. she is very bright. she is not an idiot. she knows exactly what she was doing she believes she is above it all. >> how many people that you had conversations with did you have to murder? >> is this just among ourselves? between you and me? >> a ballpark figure. >> hillary may be this trouble because al gore is definitely running for president. watch? >> are you considering running for president? >> i am a recovering politician. i said that before, but it is still true. the longer i go without a relapse the less likely there will be one. the answer in the form of that saying i'm a recovering politician is really as close to the reality of my situation as i can tell you. >> matt, how al gore is al gore? >> he wouldn't get the e-mail trouble because he invented the internet. you would think he knows his way around. it is tv. you have to kill time. >> did

i doubt it. that and what david petraeus did with his author/girlfriend? >> i would say probably not. >> what is your answer to that? >> well, i think there's a massive difference between those two things. and i think we've said this. look, they'll pick at this between now and next november, i suspect, trying to pull a thread here and there. that's what that committee, really $5 million taxpayer funded opposition research operation was doing. she answered the questions. as she noted, she made a mistake, it was a wrong choice to have it -- to use two systems received was marked classified. >> are you confident there are no other shoes to drop? >> i'm confident of that. it's a security review. and hillary has fully cooperated with them. it's in their hands. at this point, she's put forward reviewed by the state department for release. we hope they're released. actually, they show a secretary who's working hard hour by hour across the board, projecting an impressive record as secretary of state. >> john, thank you for your >> thank you, george. >>> up here, t

does jeffrey sterling get more than three years in prison while former cia director, general david petraeusets two years probation and a fine for sharing classified information with his writer/girlfriend? was the government making an example of your husband? >> . >> absolutely. i think if you look at both case, if you take both cases and you strip away race, and if you take away political clout. and if you take away financial status and you look at those cases on a piece of paper, and you didn't know the actual person, you would see that general petraeus committed far more egregious acts that jeffrey allegedly committed. yet, also lying to the fbi, which is a felony, doesn't have a felony, he has a misdemeanor. and he got a slap on the wrist. and jeffrey was basically guilty until proven innocent. and i think that it shows the world the belief that the white man can do no wrong, and if he e does, he gets a slap on the wrist. and the black man is always guilty until proven innocent and he belongs behind bars. >> holly sterling, and she's the wife of jeffrey sterling. >>> president obama says

but more importantly, general david petraeus testified not too many days ago where he really laid out a strategy of what we need to do. stop the barrel bombing, establish a no-fly zone, arm the kurds, get some forward air controllers at work there, build up the free syrian army again. it's not too late. this flood of refugees is a direct result of our failed policy. it was a year ago the president said our goal was to grade and destroy isis. we have made no progress there. and of course, we now see vladimir putin inserting himself into the middle east in a way that russia has not been since they threw the russians out in 1973, he's maintaining his base and now dictating the pace of events in syria which is of course an abdication of american leadership. >> with the exception of lindsay graham who you have endorsed, none of the other republican presidential candidates are calling for such aggressive recommendations as you are. in fact, listen to what your party's frontrunner donald trump told cnn's erin burnett in terms of letting russia fight isis in syria. >> let syria and isis fight

likes to put it but the fact is if you go to people that you would consider beyond reproach, david petraeus, james clapper, director of national intelligence. >> clapper? >> they all say the same thing, they testify. you go, you go to michael mcmullen. ambassador thomas pickering, they all say the same thing. you guys say let's have another investigation, because it will bring down hillary numbers, oh, my gosh. >> i think president obama made this very clear. what is wrong with politicizing something if it brings justice? isn't that what it's about? >> is justice -- >> in oregon we have to politicize something to bring justice. so this is just like -- the derogatory term would be a witchhunt. what if it's legitimate? what if it's -- what if it's actually there's something there, juan? >> like what? scuttling hillary clinton's campaign? >> she's deceptive, she lied. we find out everything about her emails. >> you care about ethics, you should care about america. >> can't believe people would use american lives for political purpose. >> didn't president obama say he was, said it was got to po

now e-mails have emerged between she and general david petraeus from january 2009. the state department is saying as a result i ask you confirm that with regard to her tenure as secretary of state, former secretary clinton has provided the department with all official records. this puts her on defense as she is trying to go on offense with this new ad. the gap where he suggested that the reason is to beat up on hillary clinton, bring up her poll numbers. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? we put together a benghazi special committee. what are her numbers today? >> republicans have spent millions attacking hillary because she is fighting for everything they oppose. >> so that is timed to come out right before it is decided if mccarthy will become the next speaker. but timed ahead of october 22nd when hillary clinton will testify. she is trying to sow that this is about partisanship. you have this fbi the investigation which is nonpartisan and the state department, the obama state department asking here for more information. >> thank you very,

general david petraeus, who had a notebook that was locked in a desk that he shared with his mistressshe allegedly has been transferring and going back and forth with classified information on an unsecure server that also was in a cloud. so, it is interesting that that answer, he has previously said he never wants to get involved in prejudging investigations in his own administration. he may have done that. jon: i had the same thought, when he said that, when he answered the question that way. how does know? the investigation is still underway. as you point out the fbi is still looking into those hacks from several other countries? >> that's right. we don't know the extent of that yet and that investigation is continuing and expanding. for all of the talk about you know, the politics and the political nature of the benghazi committee and what kevin mccarthy said and new allegation about the person who left that committee, there is still substance here of new emails that have been just handed over to that committee dealing with benghazi, dealing with libya, just within the past week 1/

the letter demanding to know why emails from january 2009, between clinton and general david petraeus have emerged, despite her claim that official email did not start on the personal account until that march. state department official patrick kennedy writing kendall, as a result i ask that you confirm that with regard to her tenure as secretary of state, former secretary clinton has provided the department with all federal records in her possession. >> fox obtained a letter that said that backed up all the email on her server, do the deleted personal emails, are they still alive? were they saved and did this private company have access to official email that this had classified information? brett? >> we'll continue to look. >>> the search continues meantime off the bahamas for whatever is left of a cargo ship that apparently sank during hurricane joaquin last week. the coast guard said the "el farro" is under 15,000 feet of water. the death toll in this weekend's storms in the carolinas is now 17. 15 of those were in south carolina where the recovery effort from historic rains is jus

one of the prosecutors quietly working on the clinton case recently helped prosecute general david petraeus who was eventually sentenced to probation for breaking laws about improperly storing sensitive information. jon: did anyone ask mrs. clinton about the fbi's involvement? >> yes. the third and final round of questioning clinton says she knows the fbi will do what they have got to do. >> if the fbi finds some of these e-mails that might be deleted on your server will you agree to allow a neutral third-party like a retired federal judge to review any e-mails deleted to determine if any of them are relevant to our investigation? >> as you point out there is the security inquiry being conducted by the department of justice and i trust that they will do whatever is appropriate to reached their conclusion. >> the fbi director said he is getting regular updates about the clinton server case address his agents to keep moving forward with an independent investigation. jon: thank you. bill: jenna: the western hemisphere has never seen a storm as big as this, a big claim for those who lived throu