general david petraeus had an opinion piece a few days ago. believeave spoken up, i robert gates is now speaking up, the former defense secretary. is the white house argument that he will not sign anything even if it is in the defense authorization. so we are looking at the possibility, as far-fetched as it may have been on wednesday morning, of a standoff that leads to a veto of the defense authorization which always includes a pay increase for a host always includes of provisions that the pentagon named over items that are for confederate figures. host: neil covers the white house and also congress, serving as the chief correspondent of the rollcall on those fronts, here to walk us through announcer: c-span stopped in north carolina to sample the community. here is our interview at battery park, where he talked about the jim crow era. really unfolds progressively after the civil dramatically accelerates in the late 19th century in the early 20th century. system that we use the term jim crow to describe is a separation,che racial frequently b

that is from david petraeus who led the u.s. military effort in iraq at the end there. that's extraordinary, to see the discussion move so far in that direction. >> it is extraordinary and i think that often it's really people are hesitant to assume there is more change happening until it happens but we need to look at what evidence we actually have of where public sentiment is. what is happening at the ground level. and i think what we see is that public sentiment is starting to shift in a very clear and dramatic fashion. in about five years, public opinion has shifted about 20 to 25 points on the question of whether there's a systematic problem with the racial disparity in policing that public opinion has shifted and our recent cnn poll out yesterday race relations was up there with health care and the economy as a top issue for americans. i don't have the answers about why. i don't know why this george floyd moment has pushed us to this point. but it's clear that the american public believes there's a problem that needs to be resolved. they are willing for the first

as now-retired general david petraeus put it, "the irony of training at bases named for those who tookarms against the united states and for the right to enslave others is inescapable to anyone paying attention." retired major general dana pittard has been paying attention his entire career. >> it just always seemed strange and, in fact, insulting, that we had posts like fort hood, fort bragg, fort benning, that were named after confederate generaln all. fort bragg, the largest, is named after braxton bragg. >> who wasn't even a very good confederate general. why would we name a base after someone like that? >> reporter: does the quality of the general make any difference? >> these ten generals fought against the united states army, killed u.s. troops. it makes no difference how well they performed. >> reporter: great field generals, like robert e. lee, should still be studied, pittard delvininto anfulnored. discussion taking place in african american homes across the country. it's the talk between black parents and children about the hate they may encounter and possible brushes with t

among those calling for a change, retired general david petraeus writing in "the atlantic" magazine about the, quote, irony of training at bases named for those who took up arms against the united states and for the right to enslave others, adding, we do not live in a couple to which braxton bragg, henry l. benning or robert e. lee can serve as an inspiration. it comes as crowds topple mormonments across the country. protesters tearing down this statue of christopher columbus in minneapolis citing the explorer's treatment of indigenous people and knocking the head off this columbus statue in boston. the nfl's carolina panthers now removing the statue of former team owner jerry richardson and before selling the team, he was accused of using a racial slur. and this morning, another change, this one on tv. >> everyone inside. this is the police department. >> reporter: amid calls for police reform, a&e is canceling just one day after "cops" was pulled off the air. change also coming to the retailer industry. walmart now saying it will no longer place certain hair products primarily bought by

among those calling for that to change is retired general david petraeus, who wrote in "the atlantic" of the, quote, irony of training at bases named for those who took up arms against the united states and for the right to enslave others. he added, we do not live in a country to which braxton bragg, henry l. benning or robert e. lee can serve as an inspiration. acknowledging this fact is imperative. today, the president wouldn't answer questions on his decision. while the white house makes an impassioned defense of bases named for pro-slavery confederate soldiers, the president has yet to propose any specific reforms of police practices in the wake of george floyd's death. on capitol hill, republicans have tasked the only african-american republican senator to take the lead in coming up with a plan. >> we should all want to follow the lead as it relates, to, a, making sure we get something accomplished, and not just having pieces of legislation they are for show. >> reporter: the white house press secretary said today the president is working, quote, quietly and diligently, to come u

. >> reporter: former army general david petraeus said it's time to remove the names like benning and brag from the military institutions. president trump tweeted that the bases represent a history of winning, victory and he would not worry about it. it may be too late as some republican lawmakers say the time for change has come. >> you don't want to forget what's happened in the past but at the same time that doesn't mean that we should continue with those businesses, with the him in against. >>> who's to blame, an associate professor joins me now. she's president of african-american intellectual history society. doctor, it's an honor to have you and have the benefit of your knowledge and history. we are seeing a lot of shifts in american society. seems like we have the police department banning some choke holds. some budgets are coming and you have big changes in public opinion on black lives matter. does it look to you like meaningful change is happening? so often it does not. >> yes, i do think it looks like meaningful change. i think certainly this is about the first time we've

dinner program each year has been an educational one highlighted by a colloquy and which general david petraeus interviews a historian about different aspects of grants story. another annual tradition is the official commemoration of grants birthday at his two him in a ceremony organized by the national park service of the united states military academy at west point. because of the pandemic we are all experiencing, both events have been canceled this year. we thought it was important to recognize grants birthday, and that is why we come together online, to observe it with a colloquy that we can bring to you at home. this also means that we can reach a great many people who otherwise would not have been able to make it to dinner in new york. for those of you joining us for the first time, we encourage you to check out the grand monument associations website at grants tomb .org to learn more about the story behind the monument and how you can help and its preservation. we thank you for joining us. we hope you are staying safe and we hope to see you again before too long when the present challeng

retired us army general david petraeus, who served at fort bragg, is among those in favour of renaming.. authorisation for a name change would have to come from the military, and senior officials have indicated they might favour such a move. but all ten bases are in southern and former confederate states, many of which supported donald trump in 2016, and the president is radically opposed to the idea. "the united states of america trained and deployed our heroes "on these hallowed grounds and won two world wars," he tweeted. "therefore my administration will not even consider the renaming "of these magnificent and fabled military installations." but symbols of the confederacy are under growing threat. the confederate battle flag, otherwise known as the stars and bars, has now been banned by nascar, the organisation that runs stock car racing in this country, and the leader of the house of representatives, nancy pelosi, is calling for statues representing confederate leaders to be removed from the capitol building in washington, dc. the landscape is changing here in the wake of george f

general david petraeus wrote a country where bragg, or robert e lee serves as inspiration acknowledging the fact as imperative but donald trump said by administration will not even consider the renaming of these military installations. today he doubled down. senator elizabeth pocahontas warren introduced an amendment on renaming our military bases, hopefully our great republican senators won't for this. >> hearing will come to order. >> the republican-controlled senate armed services committee gave the military 3 years to rename basis. while congress debates, demonstrators are taking matters into their own hands pulling down a confederate war statue important, virginia, injuring one of their own in the process. in philadelphia they spray-painted a statue of mattias baldwin writing colonial lies are in murder, baldwins was well-known during the time of slavery and an argument abolitionist who argued for black suffrage and subsidized the education of african-american children. renaming bases and taking down statues are relatively easy but things could get more complicated. washington and

the president wants to continue to honor general henry benning who was, in the words of general david petraeusst for slavery that as early as 1849 he argued for the dissolution of the union and the formation of a southern slaveocracy, unquote. braxton bragg, a slave owner in chattanooga. on and on, you get the point. men who declared war upon the united states to fight for their rights to own and rape and kill black americans. now, the white house cannot defend the fact that a u.s. military base is named after someone believed to have headed the georgia klan, so instead they talk about how we won two world wars with soldiers trained on those ten bases. four of these forts were named in the 19 teens. six of them were named in the 1940s. these bases were not named after the civil wars, an attempt at national reconciliation. they were named in the 20th century has a way of honoring the racist lost cause that the generals fought. the keyword in that phrase, lost. they lost. and rightfully so. their cause was immoral. white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany arguing the bases should not be name

retired general david petraeus wrote a piece, he commanded forces in afghanistan and he confirms that many of the people were named after people that took up arms against the united states in the civil war to defend the rights of slavery, and he calls it, you know, ironic, to say the least, that u.s. soldiers today would be training at bases named after that. >> you know, this whole debate has been going on for some years, and there's been little movement. no momentum behind changing any of the names. the question now is will something now be different? will the u.s. military take this step? here's where we are this morning. defense secretary mark esper, ryan mccarthy, the civilian head of the army, have said they are open to bipartisan conversations on all of this. mccarthy letting it be known, however, that he's well aware that this is going to take some consensus. he'll have to get the buy-in of capitol hill and state and local governors and the buy-in of president trump. the government could do it on -- the pentagon could do it on its own but it's not practical. the president trum

retired us army general david petraeus, who served at fort bragg, is among those in favour of renamingmagazine, he wrote... authorisation for a name change would have to come from the military, and senior officials have indicated they might favour such a move. but all ten bases are in southern and former confederate states, many of which supported donald trump in 2016, and the president is radically opposed to the idea. but symbols of the confederacy are under growing threat. the confederate battle flag, otherwise known as the stars and bars, has now been banned by nascar, the organisation that runs stock car racing in this country, and the leader of the house of representatives, nancy pelosi, is calling for statues representing confederate leaders to be removed from the capitol building in washington, dc. the landscape is changing here in the wake of george floyd in all manner of ways, as america grapples with a grim legacy of its past. david willis, bbc news. the queen has been seen for the first time taking part in a video conference call. she joined princess anne and four carers on

general david petraeus had an opinion piece a few days ago. believeave spoken up, i robert gates is now speaking up, the former defense secretary. is the white house argument that he will not sign anything even if it is in the defense authorization. so we are looking at the possibility, as far-fetched as it may have been on wednesday morning, of a standoff that leads to a veto of the defense authorization which always includes a pay increase for a host always includes of provisions that the pentagon named over items that are for confederate figures. host: neil covers the white house and also congress, serving as the chief correspondent of the rollcall on those fronts, here to walk us through what is going on in the white house and congress on these issues. thank you for joining us. you.: thank host: to your calls on the idea of taking down confederate statues or the renaming of bases. if you supported, 202-748-8000. 202-748-8001.it, bob in texas is a supporter of the effort. thanks for waiting. go ahead. caller: good morning. i just want to sa

you have david petraeus saying he supports it. you have the secretary of the army saying he supports it as well. how do you see this playing out? >> well, look. the president has sort of staked out his position on this issue, and i wouldn't expect house and senate republicans to deviate from it. what's different now compared to 2017 is obviously the fact that republicans seem more willing and open to address police reform, which is something that's active and ongoing on capitol hill right now. the president is expected to endorse senator tim scott's police reform bill, which is expected to come out in full sometime early this week or early next week. you see both sides staking out their side on this issue. what remains to be seen is whether the house and senate, republicans and democrats can come to a consensus on what they want to be included into this legislation that can at some point pass both chambers of congress and get a presidential signature, but it seems like we're far away from that happening at this point. in addition

army general and former cia director david petraeus wrote regarding army bases being renamed.get your opinion on this especially as you mentioned west point. he wrote in the atlantic, the irony of training at bases named for those who took um arms against the is inescapable to anyone paying attention. now belatedly is a moment for us to pay attention. a lot of the west point graduates, we need to point out, graduating cadets, they slept in barracks named for robert e. lee, for instance and of course, you are a graduate of west point as well. do you agree with the argument that the bases need to be renamed? >> christi, i absolutely agree. ever since when i went to air force school at ft. benning, georgia, i wondered why we have installations named for those who fought against the united states of america. i think it's wrong. they need to be changed and renamed. west point has lee barracks, lee road and lee gate i think. we shouldn't erase or destroy our history, but we shouldn't glorify those who betrayed our count country. >> how much hope do you have about the state of where

retired us army general david petraeus who served at fort bragg is amongst those in favour of renaminges and within essay published in the atlantic magazine he said, "the irony of training at bases named after daisy took up arms: authorisation for a name change would have two come from the military and senior officials have said they may favour such a move but all ten bases are in southern and former confederate states, many who supported donald trump in 2016 and the president is radically opposed to the idea. the united states of america trained and deployed oui’ of america trained and deployed our heroes on these hallowed ground and won two world wars, he tweeted, and therefore my administration will not even consider the renaming of these magnificent and fabled military installations. the white house press secretary said changing their names would amount to a demonstration of disrespect for the soldiers who had served at those bases. fort bragg is known for the heroes within it that trained there and deployed from there and it is an insult to savour the men and women who left there,

among those calling for a change, retired general david petraeus writing about the irony of trainingfor those that took up arms against the united states and for the right to enslave others. adding, we do not live in a country which braxton braggs, henry l. benning can serve as an inspiration. protesters tearing down this statue of christopher columbus in minneapolis, citing the explorer's treatment of indigenous people. and knocking the head off of this columbus statue in boston. >> i understand why it happened. i know the history. they should just take it down. >> reporter: the nfl's carolina panthers now removing a statue of former team owner jerry richardson. before selling the team, richardson was accused of using a racial slur. >> reporter: and another change, this one on tv. >> everyone excited. >> reporter: amid calls for police reform, a&e is canceling "live pd," one of its highest rated show another day after another channel pulled "cops" off the air. change is also coming to the retail industry. walmart now saying it will no longer place certain hair products primarily bou

we've seen leading voices like general david petraeus, it's time to stop having military bases named confederate generals like braxton bragg, is it time? >> i do, actually. i think the right way to be able to do this is to be able to look where the name came from, to take a serious look at it and be able to transition. there are a lot of great leaders, military leaders around the country that are modern leaders, that we can honor and continue to put names forward. i see it like schools. every school has a name. you want those children in that school to learn about the founder of that school and the person that school is named after and have them as a role model. you would have that on a military base as well. if you have a military base that's named after someone that actually rebelled against the united states government you'd want to go back and look at that name. pretty basic principle. >> senator lankford, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >>> roundtable is up next. we'll be right back. next. we'll be right back. so, if your network's down, you're down. verizon

retired us army general david petraeus, who served at fort bragg, is among those in favour of renamingy published in the atlantic magazine, he wrote... authorisation for a name change would have to come from the military, and senior officials have indicated they might favour such a move, but all ten bases are in southern and former confederate states, many of which supported donald trump in 2016 and the president is radically opposed to the idea. the white house press secretary said changing the names would amount to a demonstration of disrespect for the soldiers who had served at those bases. fort bragg is known for the heroes within it that trained there, that deployed from there, and it's an insult to say to the men and women who left there, the last thing they saw on american soil before going overseas and in some cases losing their lives, to tell them that what they left was inherently a racist institution. because of a name, that's unacceptable to the president. but symbols of the confederacy are under growing threat. the confederate battle flag, otherwise known as the stars and

but donald trump, again, in the last 15 minutes, has found himself at odds with david petrae petraeusming army bases named after confederate fighters. donald trump tweeting, it's been suggested that we should rename as many as ten of our legendary military bases -- he basically comes down and says, my administration will not everybody consider the renaming of these magnificent fabled military installations. . the problem there is, donald trump's own army secretary has said he's open to it. not only is he at odds with public sentiment where you've got upwards of 75% of americans who want to see us try to turn the page, it would appear slamming the door on an army secretary who said he was very open to this and david petraeus who's also a pretty well-respected former general. phil and then eddie. >> yeah, nicolle, this is a new -- a new front for trump in the cultural wars that he's pushing and he's trying to bring a spotlight to, the white house is holding a briefing right now and minutes before the press secretary came out, the president issued that tweet, then the staff distributed p

general david petraeus had an opinion piece a few days ago.elieveave spoken up, i robert gates is now speaking up, the former defense secretary. is the white house argument that he will not sign anything even if it is in the defense authorization. so we are looking at the possibility, as far-fetched as it may have been on wednesday morning, of a standoff that leads to a veto of the defense authorization which always includes a pay increase for a host always includes of provisions that the pentagon named over items that are for confederate figures. host: neil covers the white house and also congress, serving as the chief correspondent of the rollcall on those fronts, here to walk us through what is going on in the white house and congress on these issues. thank you for joining us. you.: thank host: to your calls on the idea of taking down confederate statues or the renaming of bases. if you supported, 202-748-8000. 202-748-8001.it, bob in texas is a supporter of the effort. thanks for waiting. go ahead. caller: good morning. i just want to say

army general and cia director david petraeus wrote in a new op-ed for "the atlantic," it's time to removeoln project, a group of conservatives critical of president trump took on this issue in a new ad. >> the men who followed this flag 150 years ago knew what it meant. treason against their country. the death of the united states. america defeated the men who followed that flag. those with honor, surrender and cast it aside forever. so why does it keep showing up today at events supporting donald trump? and why does he call the folks who carry it very fine people. >> i think there's blame on both sides, but you also had people that were very fine people. >> what does it say that they're all in for trump? what does it say that he won't condemn the flag of hate, division and losers? for us, it says this is a time for choosing. america or trump. >> joining us now, one of the strategist behind the lincoln project, steve schmidt and "usa today" opinion columnist and former senior adviser for the house oversight and government reform committee, kurt bardella. he's a "morning joe" contributor.

general david petraeus had an opinion piece a few days ago. believeave spoken up, i robert gates is now speaking up, the former defense secretary. is the white house argument that he will not sign anything even if it is in the defense authorization. so we are looking at the possibility, as far-fetched as it may have been on wednesday morning, of a standoff that leads to a veto of the defense authorization which always includes a pay increase for a host always includes of provisions that the pentagon named over items that are for confederate figures. host: neil covers the white house and also congress, serving as the chief correspondent of the rollcall on those fronts, here to walk us through>> "wash" continues. host: our next guest is derrick johnson. he serves as president and ceo of the naacp. than for joining us, sir. guest: good morning, thanks for having me. host: