joining me is david petraeus. general petraeus, thanks for joining us today.sia state media is reporting dugan was expected to be driving the car, but switched vehicles at the last minute. what are the implications of this? she was a well-known broadcaster putting putin propaganda out on state run media. >> alexander dugan was described as putin's brain, as you may recall. his daughter darya was a well known propagandist. it's not clear who carried out this action. there are various accusations. one could be some kind of dissident group in russia trying to take actions against putin, but that is not clear. it's not entirely possible this is some kind of inside job because alexander dugan had fallen out of favor a bit in recent times and the invasion is not going well. without knowing more about what really took place, it's still hard to assess what has transpired. >> it could become some sort of excuse for retaliation against ukraine. you have ukraine independence day this week. >> that is correct. president zelenskyy issued a warning to ukrainians that putin

so general david petraeus, former u.s.tan here with a look at where we are right now given all of this and of course given this major victory that happened several days ago. first to trey yingst live in jerusalem. >> good afternoon. the leader of al-quaida, ayman al-zawahiri is dead following a drone strike in afghanistan. the wanted terrorist had a bounty on his head for $25 million. he was sheltering among the civilian population in the capitol of kabul. reports indicate that he was killed with a hellfire missile. this was the first over the horizon strike for the united states since the taliban takeover amid concerns that u.s. officials would have difficulty conducting counter terrorism operations in afghanistan. the compound where the strike took place is being roped off with the taliban with journalists being denied for information. al-zawahiri joined al-quaida in 1998 and was osama bin laden's deputy he was in he was killed. he was involved in the u.s.s. cole and u.s. embassy bombings in africa. his death is signific

thank you so much, general david petraeus on all fronts.this article on afghanistan. >> thanks, andrea. >> as we approach the anniversary. >>> and defeated. another republican voting for impeachment losing to a trump-backed candidate what does that mean for liz cheney in her primary in wyoming, that's next. steve kornacki with the full board breakdown. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. add-on trt for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems. alrgic rctionsan occ. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that n cause shingles have occured. don't stop steroids unless told by yr doct. te your doctor if you have a rasitiinfectn. may cae headhe, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. ask your asthma specialist about a nunormal with nucala. ♪ got my hair got my head ♪ back pain, and fatigue. introducing new one a day multi+. a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+.

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and nato expander ercommander of tr afghanistan, general david petraeus. good to see you.round the world here, starting in afghanistan, the u.s. suggests the taliban knew al zawahiri was in kabul. this makes a mockery really of that core plank of the doha agreement saying the taliban wouldn't give shelter to terrorists. that always seemed naive. the question now is do you think the u.s. should hold the taliban accountable for sheltering zawahiri and if so, how? >> well, certainly we should. i think we have probably already started by we will now slow the pace of the release of that $3.5 billion of frozen taliban assets, now taliban assets, afghan assets, really, that the discussions had been to release through some mechanism that would get to the afghan people without enriching the taliban. i suspect that's going to move very, very slowly now. beyond that, while this is an extraordinary achievement by our intelligence and counterterrorism communities, it is also very, very concerning. as you noted, this indicates the taliban completely went back on their agreement, and at

army general david petraeus, the chairman of kkr global institute, which owns some defense contractingral does not work with the firms. general, taiwan's military says at least 11 chinese missiles struck the sea surrounding taiwan. 22 chinese warplanes entered the air defense zone earlier today. these are unprecedented steps from the chinese government. how do you interpret them? >> well, they are very muscular statements and very muscular actions, jake. although the eastern command of china said earlier today that it actually completed all of the live-fire exercises and that the maritime and airspace restrictions are have been lifted. it could be that we are starting to see this begin to wind down, though there are still temporary halts on certain exports from taiwan to china. i'm sure that the rhetoric will continue for days and that some of the repercussions could continue for weeks or even months. >> speaker pelosi's visit comes at a time when relations between washington and beijing had been strained. today we learned that the u.s. is postponing a planned intercontinental ballisti

he handled the david petraeus and hillary clinton investigations what's revolve around the handling of classified records. loughman had this to say about the search of the former florida presidents home. for the government to pursue a search warrant at mar-a-lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the evidence they were reciting, in a search warrant and affidavit than fbi agents were to, was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically motivated. joining us now is david loughman, former chief of the counter intelligence and export control section in the justice department's national security position. he held opposition until 2018 and he oversaw the investigation of hillary clinton's handling of classified records and the investigation of david petraeus. mr. loughman, thank you for being with. it's >> good to be with you ali. >> we hear that many republicans are claiming that this investigation is political but i heard what you said to politico, saying the only way the doj would've pursued the search

army general david petraeus and former security advisor sandy burger.e jail time in their cases. one key question in this case will be intent. the fbi identified hillary clinton's actions and her email scandal as careless, so she wasn't charged. however former nsa contractor reality winner was sentenced to prison time because the justice department says that she intentionally leaked the document to a news outlet. let's bring back my expert panel, toys vance, peter strzok, and he hugo loyal. -- sorry hugo. where will the intent come into play and where this case goes? >> right, intense is a bright line when we look at these situations. one of the most important things to appreciate here is that we are talking about some classified information, now recovered at mar-a-lago, that was top secret but also what's called s c i. compartment and information that only available on a need to know basis to people who hold top secret security clearance. top secret information is typically information that if released in unauthorized fashion has the potential to grave

the investigation of hillary clinton's handling of classified records, and the investigation of david petraeus. mr. laufman, thank you for being here tonight. >> goods to be with you. >> and we know that many republicans are claiming that this investigation is political but i just read what you said to "politico," that the only way that the d.o.j. would have pursued this search warrant is if it had evidence that it raised any notion that this would be politically motivated. what do you think that evidence might be? why are you so sure about that? i think in matters of this sensitivity, the department is going to hear an abundance of caution to make sure that not only that they can satisfy the legal standard of probable cause to persuade a magistrate judge to issue the warrant but to be able to withstand public scrutiny at such time that the warrant affidavit may be made public or the department can comment publicly about it. and so there is kind of a plus factor, if you will, that attends to these kind of investigative endeavors where the department wants to make sure that they are as air-tigh

david petraeus. broadly popular. cia director. also serve in the both parties.but ultimately he had to plead guilty because he share ord leaked classified information with a biographer with whom he had a relationship and later lied abt. he told the fbi he didn't give the information out. in that case, very heavy, jail time on the table -- it went to court because of that deal. judge in that case ultimately fined petraeus $100,000, which was higher than the prosecutors asked for, citing the seriousness of the offense. mr. petraeus, for reasons mentioned, did not actually go to prison and others viewed it as all even still too lenient. >> david petraeus, who once also headed up the cia was sentenced today to two years probation and fined $100,000. >> lawyers are cite it as an example of, if he got off with that, our guy should get off with a similar lenient sentence. >> that was going on then. and remember, whether you think that was a lot of punishment or there could have been more, even that was more than a home search. here you have the ongoing apparent, allege

one of the reasons that donald trump did not select david petraeus, secretary of state, was he mentioned this, he mentioned the fact that he had mishandled classified information and there was just no way that either he nor the generals who were going to work for him could be -- have any part of that. >> the question of intent, obviously, we'll let the investigation speak for itself. but that is a big one and it makes it far more serious if they find intent. but still if the documents were in his possession, illegally, not matter what, it is bad. you can't walk out with these documents. you didn't by mistake stuff them in your pocket. carol lee, the justice department, the fbi, they're not thinking about the politics of this but it is hard not to look at what might happen or the impact of this politically, your taking a look at the impact this could even have on president biden, positively and negatively? >> that is right. mika, my colleagues and i reported out how some democrats are looking at this and so you have the white house's perspective here which is the president is not going to

army general david petraeus, and former national security advisor sandy berger neither faced prison time our experts agreed the decision to charge comes down to the question of intent >> basically did this cross the line from the situation of carelessness to one of criminal intent? >> reporter: this investigation differs from the one concerning hillary clinton's e-mails, which the justice department identified as careless. while former nsa contractor reality winner who had just one classified document was sentenced with prison time because she intentionally leaked the information to a news outlet, according to the justice department is there any justifiable reason why former president trump would have classified top secret documents in his possession still? >> it's hard for me to understand a legitimate national security reason why the former president should have documents he appears to have been holding at mar-a-lago it poses a grave danger to the national security of america to reveal those documents. that's why they're classified at that level, so it's very serious. >> maura joins us

but, david petraeus was one example. have been cases of documents making their way out of where they are supposed to be, for various personal purposes. that is one piece of that. where broadly, there certainly have been -- more broadly, there certainly have been in a number of administrations questions about whether people are observing the records they are supposed to. i think we saw it in much more extreme form in the trump administration. certainly the idea of trying to keep conversations secret is something we have seen before and goes all the way back to richard nixon and watergate which is what led to a lot of transparency laws. i think most administrations have tried to, for the most part , comply with the law but we have seen incidences of really resisting transparency. host: is it the attorney general who would make the charges if it came to that? guest: in most cases, it would be someone below the attorney general. a u.s. attorney in a specific district or an assistant attorney general. if it were to be the pre

so please join me in welcoming, america's greatest living commander, general david petraeus, and ron sure now and ron white. these come up. for our colloquy. [applause] [applause] >> that was an example of general petraeus demonstrating the airborne skills. [laughs] [applause] [inaudible] >> testing, 1 to 3. and testing 1 to 3. >> sorry for the little drama the announcement there, you have to make an entrance every now and again. thank you frank for the characteristically primed introduction. i hope that c-span will cut that part of the film. and thank you also for not mentioning in my buyout that i was runner-up four-time man of the year since the man who beat me out in 2007 was none other than vladimir putin. but good evening to all of you, how wonderful it is to be in a room with real people in real faces. it is great of you to be here to support the grant monument association. thanks again as always to at hoffman, and especially to a president, franks utero, and the grant monument association team that is put this evening together as we celebrate the 200th birthday of the man who

one of the great joys after my biography of grant was published was to meet general david petraeus. frank spots hero is here today, who is president of the grants monument association. tomorrow evening the grant monument association will present a colloquy in new york, hosted by general petraeus and in conversation with ron chernow and myself. general petraeus ranks grant as the greatest american general with no comparison. he will tell the story we did a convocation at west point together, how he read grants memoirs of a prepared to leave the surge in iraq. and then he asked his generals, his leaders, to read grants memoirs. because grant is this person, there will be no turning back. well, as senator blunt mentioned in his final remarks, grants star fellow. aloft calls came forward quickly after the civil war, put forward by both confederate generals, and by newspaper editors, arguing that the best side have lost. the more christians side, the more chivalrous side. and they lost only because they were overwhelmed by the larger union army, the industrial might of the north, and tha

former marine, who served on general david petraeus central command assessment team in most and greatcongressman you are one of the fairest people they served with. credit where credit is due. >> al-zawahiri was a major figure in global movement. the world is safer with him gone, i fear we're back to september attempts in afghanistan this proves we have a country controlled by taliban providing safe haven to al qaeda. what al-zawahiri of killed he was in the heart of kabul in a house owned by a top aide to senior taliban leader, haqqani who ran a "new york times" op-ed. ifal guide is is not a disruptive group, i don't know what circumstance is. i am glad he is gone, but for president to go out there and spike the football when details of al-zawahiri fal. >> in some ways, we're in a worse position than on september 10, the shameful way in which we surrendered in afghanistan has invited invite aggression in other parts of the world, whether russia taking advantage of our weakness in ukraine or increasing tension in taiwan. trey: what does it say, it is barely a year after our withdrawal

once again, that from general david petraeus, the former u.s. and nato afghan commander.ur question for you this morning is what is the legacy of the war in afghanistan? want to hear from republicans that (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. and we are opening up a special line for veterans of the war in afghanistan, (202) 748-8003. let's start with william, calling from baltimore, maryland on the democrat line. good morning. caller: good morning. good to see you. to stay in afghanistan definitely was not worth it. we stayed there too long. maybe a better strategy would have been surgical airstrikes. i really do not believe in boots on the ground, sacrificing our bravest and youngest, young americans in these wars. and to make matters worse, going into iraq was an even more egregious decision, probably the worst in america's military history. just think, none of us had to happen, because the 2000 election was stolen, the real stolen election, if you want to talk about stolen elections. none of this would have happened, because i doubt i

david petraeus writing in the atlantic. we mostly just want to hear from you. phone lines as usual. that special line is for those who served in afghanistan, (202) 748-8003. arlene is in new orleans. good morning. you were next. caller: i have one problem. ever since trump has been running, i have family members that have been placed all over the world in the military. i am very afraid right now of what's going on with this paperwork they found in his place. i am very worried about my family members and other people who are fighting for our country and our freedom for us to lay down in our beds and sleep comfortably at night. ever since trump came into the political world, i have been very worried. host: we will get to the raid on mar-a-lago. we will spend a segment on it later. on this anniversary, you mentioned you have family members in the military. have you talked to them? caller: they are still in the military. they have served in afghanistan. they are still in the military. i am very worried. host: what have they said to you about the u.s. leaving afghanistan? have you had th

some of it i thought like cia director david petraeus they mark of cia and i said why your doing that? the letters he iowa are everywhere and they said well if you have the letters he iowaur n your look the cia will have to re-your book and i could take months longer for publication so i said -- i'll make this quick because of the much longer answer. the fbi oversees over 70 offices throughout the world and most people don't don't know that we are received in what the fbi does if there's a nexus to an investigation here in united states and has a nexus to china which is one of the places i was stationed i'm a person who works with the chinese government to get that information evidence or whatever they need and get that back to the united states so the united states a week into do our investigation and vice versa. if the chinese have an investigation i help them with that. the fbi is the head of the office and that's generally what you are doing. you are morbidly a gene -- liaison. if there is a case or a terrorist bombing which happened in one of the cases like covered if the governm

the section until 2018 and oversaw investigations into hillary clinton and former cia director david petraeus'slassified records. here's what he had to say. listen to this. >> in some respects it's not that surprising given this president's consistent flagrant disregard for the protection of classified information and disregard for the intelligence kmnt committee throughout his presidency, his careless, reckless disclosure not only to foreign nationals but our foreign adversaries. it could be said this is another version of that flagrant disregard and contempt. having said that, it is nonetheless shock to me having overseen prosecutions of multiple defendants under them to see that same statute leveled as a search warrant executed on the home of a former president of the united states. >>> in ukraine a stern warning about the power plant in ukraine. the facility is now at risk of vie lathe radiation safety and fire safety standards. this is due to damage of recent shelling that they're pitting on each other. meanwhile the city came under artillery fear. pe five people came under attack. 35 othe

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and everybody remembers david petraeus, who barely escaped a conviction. so, these are serious crimes. and it doesn't matter whether the documents or classified or not. and that's something to remember. >> you just reminding us of how old we all are, oh wait a minute, you are taking me back. can we talk about allen weisselberg, the former cfo of the trump organization? he pleaded guilty today, 15 year tax scheme where he benefited. the trump organization benefited as well. he can testify against the trump org if it goes to trial, should go to trial this fall. look at that reveal, michael? >> i'm afraid it might not reveal very much. because, from what i understand, they're dealing primarily with what weisselberg was engaged with, that was about one point $5 million estimated value of wrongdoing. nor might know, as an attorney, better than me what's possible. but i keep thinking about the general motors case, where this was a corporation that was responsible for 148 deaths over ten years with a problem with an ignition system. nobody went to jail for that.

necessarily need to know it and some of it i thought was just silly because it's like blank director david petraeus. cia director, it's like they marked out cia and i said well, why are you doing that? the letter cia are everywhere and they said well. if you have the letter cia in your book, then the cia has to review your book and that could add months. to your publication so like yeah. okay, forget i'll just leave it there. but anyway, um, and i'll make this quick because it's it's a much longer answer the fbi is overseas and over 70 offices. we are all based in the us embassies throughout the world. and most people don't know that we're overseas and what the fbi does is if there is a nexus to an investigation here in the united states and it has a nexus to say china, which is one of the places i was stationed then i'm the person who works with the chinese government. to get that information or evidence or whatever they need and get that back to the united states so we can do our investigation and vice versa if the chinese have an investigation i help them with that. so you're the fbi the legal a

. >> there are others -- i interviews david petraeus who said as bad as the other threats were, we wereer with the nuclear deal than not. wasn't to ask you about something else. i was told one of the last issues, which we know, was whether to lift the terror designation imposed by the trump administration, on the revolutionary guard, the group that was out to get you, according to the charging documents, and that there was a counteroffer from the u.s. side to lift that designation if they would cancel all of these death plots against former u.s. officials. >> right. that's the same mentality that says we're better off having the deal. the fact is the deal itself is so inherently flawed, puts iran so close to a nuclear capability, that it gave them all they wanted, even if they complied, which they did not. they said, we're not going to go after nuclear weapons. that commitment is worth just about as much as a commitment that says, we will stop trying to commit murder against american citizens on american soil. this regime in tehran will say anything to achieve its objectives. whether it

he oversaw investigations into both hillary clinton's and former cia director david petraeus' handlingf classified records. here's what he had to say about the seizure of top secret documents from trump's residence. >> in some respects it's not that surprising given this president's consistent flagrant disregard for the protection of classified information and disregard for the intelligence community throughout his presidency, his careless, reckless disclosure of sensitive classified information and this could be another version of that flagrant disregard and contempt. having said that, it is nonetheless shocking to me having overseen prosecutors of multiple defendants under provisions of the espionage act to see that same statute leveled as a foundation for a search warrant executed on the home of a former president of the united states. >> meanwhile there are new concerns over the safety of fbi agents. as cnn's brian todd explains, the mar-a-lago search appears to have amplified hostility in some quarters towards law enforcement officials. >> reporter: multiple law enforcement source

the most recent case like this was david petraeus. he shared documents with a journalist and admitted to that and had a misdemeanor charge. another was sandy berger. he put a, he literally put documents in his socks. not sure if i'm remembering this correctly, but from a presidential archive for some, i think a book he was working on. again, he pled to misdemeanors. there was a state department official who received some jail time. that person had large numbers of files they kept in their basements. but what's so unusual is that no president has done anything even approaching this since richard nixon and it was the reason this act was enforced was that nixon you know refused to turn over the tapes from the oval office and other records and he lost decisively in the supreme court. 7-2 decisions. so that's what's so extraordinary about this whole unprecedented situation. >> yeah, i mean, there's nothing to look back on and say well, look, this is what former president did or didn't do related somewhat to this, but there is no case where

the classic example is general david petraeus, barack obama's cia chief who shared code word classified information with a girlfriend who was writing a book about him and about other information. that results in a prosecution. so in this setting, doj had to have probable cause to believe that a specific crime was committed. they would have to in the search warrant application specify what that violation was. and they have to be specific about providing evidence that a reasonable person would look at, and not only believe crime had a been committed but evidence of that crime would he be found in the place to be searched. and that regard i'm very interested in donald trump's admission that his private personal safe was searched. because that suggested that agents had acquired information and this has to be fresh information. it can't be months old. you get a search warrant, you're evidence has to be fresh and not stale in the language that prosecutors use. so they believe that there was something in there that was either evidence or fruits of a crime. that means that the government had to

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kinds of investigations, including the hillary clinton email investigation and that involving david petraeus' handling of classified information. what happens next in this investigation, particularly on the line of what the risk was to these documents and who might have had access to them while they were in the president's home. >> the department of justice prosecutors will take a new line of investigative activity. they will closely review these classified materials recovered from mar-a-lago. they will confer with u.s. intelligence agencies that generated the collection, resulting in the preparation of these reports, they'll conduct whatever additional interviews they need to determine how it was these documents were brought to mar-a-lago in the first place, who was involved in the decisions at the white house to bring them there, to what extent was the former president involved, who made these key decisions, who had access, if anybody, to these documents, while they were at mar-a-lago. why they were sent there in the first place. there's a whole mini investigation that will now commence ba

views from general david petraeus, the former cia director, army retired general and much more.w. i'm sure you heard some of general mckenzies musings on what happened and how quickly it happened and the fact that others in command were warning president biden that there would be trouble. they were not in favor of the pull-out at that point. but the president was the commander-in-chief and they followed his orders. there is lingering bitterness. general mckenzie has talked about how the taliban has not only strengthened but endorsed and comforted the enemy, the very people that we were supposed to be policing and keep out of afghanistan, al-quaida itself. what do you make of that? >> well, first of all, i obviously have a different view last year as well. i think it was on fox that a month or so prior to the withdrawal stated that i fear add psychological collapse of afghan forces when they knew that we had left and that our contractors that maintained their helicopters really to the commandos, reinforcements and close air support left as well. really the past two administration

right now to discuss more is william taylor, the former ambassador to ukraine and retired general david petraeus who of course is the former cia director and central command. thank you for being here on this day. i want to break this into three parts, ukraine, russia and the nato alliance. where is ukraine six months in? and what are you watching for in the next six months? >> well, ukraine i think has seized this stra tegic initiative. they went from 5% of russian control to their territory to 20%. they won the battle of kyiv. putin failed to topple president zelenskyy. putin is watching nearly 4 million of his best and brightest leave his country. he's made nato great again. he's done more for ukrainian nationalism. so now ukraine is poised, supported by the arsenals of democracy, the other nato countries to perhaps go on the offensive to launch a counter offensive in the south in particular having again used these precision ammunitions to rush ammo dumps, fuel depots, headquarters and air fields in crimea seeming to set conditions for what might follow. but the question is can they now transl

9/11, a blurring of the lines between the military and the cia, perhaps best symbolized when david petraeusecame cia director and leon panetta moved to be defense secretary. would you talk about the significance of that blurring of the lines between the military and cia, what it means for how the organization functions, and for our security? amy: after 9/11, one of the improvements in intelligence was much tighter integration between the cia and what the military was doing. tight coordination about counterterrorism targeting for example. drone strikes are sometimes carried out by the military, sometimes carry out by the central intelligence agency, sometimes carried out by the two of them together. there have been real benefits, but there is a real downside to that integration as well. as i talk about in the book, there is an opportunity cost. the cia cannot do everything. the cia's primary mission is -- mission has always been preventing strategic surprise. by that, i mean preventing another pearl harbor or 9/11, a major attack or development that catches the nation by surprise. the agency

and that can range from examples like the former cia director, retired general david petraeus, who pled guilty to one count of a misdemeanor of mishandling information, to charges against former intelligence community employees who have been prosecuted and served years in prison. so there's a real range, but certainly the mishandling at this volume of classified information is something that people are charged and sometimes go to jail for. >> so many questions left about what these documents were and why they were taken down there. thank you so much for your time. >> thanks. >>> when donald trump himself broke the news about the search at mar-a-lago, that took place on monday. it didn't take long for the right-wing media ecosystem to erupt in outrage. most notably on fox. one of the former president's favorite outlets, of course. take a listen. >> but when we get power back, it's time to hold everyone accountable. the military leadership, the civilian leadership, the civil service, those in congress who have abused their power, all of them have to be held accountable, all of them. >> a

. >> i also saw your interview with david petraeus today.t to be very interesting regarding our withdrawal from afghanistan. andrea mitchell, appreciate it as always. >> katy, always good to be with you. thank you. >>> coming up next, the issue that is most important to latino voters for the first time ever. we've got that poll. we'll tell you what it says. >>> why wisconsin is now in line to be the 2022 version of florida, florida, florida. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tech: cracked windshield? don't wait. go to safelite.com ♪ ♪ you can schedule service in just a few clicks. it's so easy. and more customers today are relying on their cars advanced safety features, like automatic emergency breaking and lane departure warning. that's why our recalibration service is state of the art. we recalibrate your vehicle's camera, so you can still count on those safety features. all right, we're all finished. >> customer: thank you so much. >> tech: thank you. don't wait--schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ age is just a number. and mine

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counterintelligence section in 2018 overseeing the investigations into hillary clinton's and general david petraeus' handling of classified records. you know of which you speak. you've investigated similar crimes about taking documents, classified information. but when you see this today, david, you see the department of justice is investigating possible violations of the espionage act by a former president, what went through your mind when you saw that? >> well, if it were some other president, we might be completely shocked. in some respects it's not that surprising given this president's consistent flagrant disregard for the protection of classified information and disregard for the intelligence community throughout his presidency. his careless, reckless disclosure of sensitive classified information not only to foreign nationals but to the heads of governments of our foreign adversaries. it could be said that this is just another version of that flagrant disregard and contempt. having said that, it is nonetheless shocking to me, having overseen prosecutions of multiple defendants under provisio

and what happened to david petraeus, an american patriot, a general director of the cia, when it turneded information with a relationship of his, he was guilty ultimately of a misdemeanor, he step down as director of the cia. there have been a number of cases a very senior officials, including former directors of the cia, i'm thinking of director deutch, who got in a lot of trouble because, even though they have these positions, if you access documents outside of these facilities, you have committed a crime. >> trump's statement was just read on air at fox news saying that trump has a, quote, standing order, and quote, the documents removed from the oval office and taken to the residents were deemed to be declassified. don't have the details on that, i don't know if that's automatically or if they went to mar-a-lago and there were, declassified. but all i know is that there's a bit more of a process involved in that. >> that is exactly right, first of, all i don't believe her second that that's true because it suggests a bit more intentionality than we saw in president trump. by the, wa

with respect to classification, the fact of unauthorized possession, when we think of david petraeus sharing that with his biographer, or sandy berger taking documents from the national archives. the why doesn't matter, it is the fact of it. and that is all you need. who knows why he would have done it but it's an edge unimaginable that he wouldn't, including the high level of classification justifies this even more. people are making this appear as though it's a technical violation. this is not a technical violation, this is a violation for which there is a whole administrative apparatus to make sure that classified information doesn't get out so the protocol makes a difference, and as to your last question is not like it's a magic wand. he walked out the door and says everything is declassified. obviously that makes -- it >> i'm sorry to interrupt you. if you could just stand by. i want to bring in josh, who wrote a article. what can you bring us about the documents related to nuclear weapons, that your colleagues reported being taken -- . >> they were working with subpoenas, they'

>> david petraeus who as cia director was actually sharing some classified information, not just possessingt outside of proper space, but actually disseminating the information, which made it a huge issue. in this case we don't know. the affidavit once finally opened may tell us that. i doubt the redactions will allow us that much insight today to know whether there was a concern about dissemination or actual dissemination that led to the search and seizure. >> a big question looming over this is that surveillance footage that they got outside the room. david, thank you for joining us on this really, really interesting to see this as we are waiting any moment now to see part of this affidavit and we will see what they see. >> i will be watching. >> thank you. >>> president biden returning to the campaign trail with a fiery speech at the democratic national committee in maryland, touting his administration's accomplishments and attacking what he calls maga republicans. >> the maga republicans don't just threaten our personal rights and economic security, they are a threat to our very democra

david petraeus, for taking home information, for sharing it with pop or many of these were misdemeanors and they never resulted in severe penalties. but there are instances where people have been penalized, have been jailed and the fact is i think it fair to say they bent over backward because he is the former president of the united states. one thing and on a military reservation, where he lived, how an aide used to come to him when he was writing his memoir handcuffed with a brief case with confidential or classified information. this is the former supreme allied commander of world war ii of the european theater and he, again, would look at these documents and then return them. this was even before the presidential records act. so these kind of information has always been kept confidential and never before, you know, since richard nixon when this law was created, never before have any presidential records been kept so casually. and just another point, president biden withdrew donald trump's security clearances which others have automatically. remember also, katy, just one final though