i do think it is fair to say that the sanctions haven't been a death blow david petraeus's and othershere has been real damage done. we know that countless western brands have left russia. everyone from american airlines and delta to starbucks and that has caused enormous damage. at the same time, the latest numbers out of moscow even show that their budget efforts it is storing, oil and gas revenue is down by almost 50% year-over- year. that is in large part because of these western sanctions. boris, if david petraeus gets his way and there are even more sanctions, the pressure on vladimir putin and russia is going to even go higher. >> interesting perspective. matt egan, thanks so much. jim peered >>> coming up, where is wagner boss yevgeny prigozhin. the russian president lukashenko says the leader of the mutiny against vladimir putin is not in belarus where does he say he is? do we believe him? we will talk about it, coming up. (dr. aaron king) if you have diabetes, getting on dexcom is the single most important thing you can do. it eliminates painful finger sticks, helps lower a1

i am joined by former five-star general and cencom director general david petraeus, and so what is theet from this? >> john, i think that the objective here is to bring the war to the russian people, and particularly those in moscow, and these are presumably ukrainian-produced drones. they are targeting according to individuals with whom i have spoken in fact seven weeks ago in kyiv legitimate military targets, and they don't always end up hitting those, and the air defense can end up hitting those, and the russian ethnic forces that are operating from ukraine into russia, and the legion and so forth, be ut what they are trying to do with the war going on is that it can have an impact on them, and ideally it is going well for the russians on the battlefield, and distracting them to the degree to impact the assets on their own soil, and ministries of defense and so forth that cannot be used therefore on the battlefield of ukraine. >> general, what is your assessment of how the counter assessment is going in general. last weekb, the ukrainians were claiming success on a small town that t

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general david petraeus joins us, former cia director, refired -- retired four-star general.great having you. what do you think of this, not now with everything that's going on? maybe afterwardsful. >> well, i think, actually, what was agreed was really quite positive for ukraine. it was essentially a pledge to allow accelerated membership in nato when certain conditions are met. now, that presumably means that it's not in a shooting war with russia which it was, again, just completely unrealistic to think that you could make a country a member of nato that all the nato nations would vote for, essentially, going to war with russia. so, again, i think this was the right decision. i think that the expectations, perhaps the aspirations in kyiv -- and i was just there fife weeks ago, and i was struck by this even when we met with president zelenskyy and others -- that those aspirations were just a bit unrealistic. the idea that you could join nato, again, while you're still in a shooting war with russia. on the other hand, again, there were a lot of positive, other positive eleme

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. >> david petraeus joins us now, the chairman of kkr global institute which owns defense contracting firms. as we heard in alex' reporting the ukrainian general thinks that even just the threat of these american cluster bombs could lead to russian troops abandoning their positions. do you think that's realistic, and do you support biden's decision to send cluster bombs? >> i strongly support the decision, jake, and i do believe that the employment of these weapons will have a significant effect. there is a need for this kind of munitions to help the ukrainians to break through these belts of mine fields, tank ditches, trench lines, dragons teeth and so forth. they're doing that very painstakingly right now. in fact, they're carrying out a strategy that might be described -- and in fact the u.k. chief of defense staff described it as starved, stretched and strike. so they're specifically going after key locations like that strike announced -- not verified but announced against a reserved force's area, headquarters, supply points, fuel depots and artillery pieces. and that's the challe

like how do you reconcile the fact that david petraeus, hillary clinton and joe biden and mike penceclassified documents and trump is. and i think if you put jack smith on the spot and if you were forced to answer i think he would say it is largely because of this. trump probably could have gotten a pass, even with possessed domes but he could have wrangled himself out of it. but it is the obstruction. i don't know how the doj couldig for that now. >> and that is far easy to convict them on than any of the document charge which are complicated and over how you get classified information from front of a jury. all you have to do is prove there was an investigation and try to obstruct it. and we could bring that tomorrow. >> and this superseding indictment really raises employee -- trump employee number four. he is implicated in a lot of this superseding indictment. he is an i.t. worker who cnns that confirmed is named useal tafares, he was the person that de oliveira met with task about the video footage and how long it was retained. he told the i.t. director that the boss wanted it to

documents case, we've had those before with former national security adviser sandy berger, general david petraeushad classified documents cases in the past, sex cases in the past, stormy daniels, we've had that kind of case. this one goes to the very foundation of our republic, the peaceful transfer of power, the rule of law. this, if it goes to trial, which in all likelihood it will, indictment is inevitable, this will be not just the trial of the century, this will be the trial of all centuries in american history. it goes to the foundation of what we stand for. >> and then, jonathan, how do you compete with all the noise that former president trump makes right now? the special counsel isn't going to come before the cameras, but donald trump is going to speak to any camera and on any social media platform that will let him. >> well, that speaks to the role of democrats and surrogates, and i think it makes no sense for the biden campaign to get involved. all other democrats need to really step up and explain that the president of the united states in late 2020 and early 2021 tried to steal an el