jocelyn shelley, larry catalin, jennifer, bashir abdellah, carolyn flagg and david pierce. if you want to speak on this item and i didn't call your name, you can come up. just line up on the left side, please. someone's got to come up first. don't be shy. >> my name is larry ketaler, and i own the property at 65 nordoff street. i've been living there for about 40 years, and i knew the lady that passed away at 95 nordoff. the entire i've been there, it has been a nice, big, open space. everyone i know of at the end of the block always knew there were actually two lots. there was 95 and i don't know what that is, 89 or whatever that was, and then there was 65. we're not opposed to the development of this corner. when connie's house was sold, 95 nordoff, we always expected that somebody would develop that side lot. and i applaud the architects for what they've come up with, what they've done. but my conspirac concern is is that -- i'm sorry for being more articulate. what we'd like to see, what i would like to see, is that 95 and another house on the property. and not, you kno