. >> david pillpal. several items. first to director heinicke, i think you sounded pretty confident, perhaps overly presumptuous that directors franklin and borden will be reappointed, supervisor peskin specifically called them out yesterday for not checking in with his office and just assuming that members appointed by the mayor would be confirmed by the board of supervisors, so we'll see what happens at the board today. with respect to the new logo, there was a marketing piece or some handout that went to employees yesterday that i saw. i think that this is a terrible idea. i would note in terms of history, muni, which is 105.5 years old has had three logos in that 105 year history. now mta at only 18 years has also had three logos. historically, the best logo, i think was the original o'shaugnessy logo, the logo still seen on tokens. this is the first time i've heard about it. i don't know if board members have heard about it before. it wasn't in the budget. if there was stakeholder outreach. it was another example

. >> david pillpal again. several things. first, public outreach isn't just with the supervisors, it's about the public. >> commissioner: of course. i appreciate there was discussion and we'll talk about that monday. i stand by my earlier comments but frankly i'm torn because i like director borden and she co-chaired and did a good job. and in my view she also did a good job on the planning commission and thought she was articulate in her statement and in discussion with you. i wish she'd demonstrated more of that thoughtfulness and independence on the board. she does at times but at other times she goes along with the staff and the rest of the board members. there continues to be issues with the m.t.a. board and how they engage with the public. particularly those who don't always agree but there isn't enough independence demonstrated on that board. and that's part of the problem and part of what you hear from various advocates. regardless of what happens today or next week, i hope you will continue to dialogue with board mem