david pillpal. i did read through the 151 pages, but there you go. at least two former city employees are listed here. john haley is not one of them. again, on the question of conflict of direct, does director tumlin have an conflict of interest? this is the firm he used to work for and i don't know if he retains shares or ownership interest in the firm and i don't know how long he has to not be involved in contracting with the firm and if he does have connection, did he not not participate and does this need to get delegated to the director or the designee and also wondering, where is hayden mill sner maybe he is back in school. anyway. those are my comments on item 13. >> i would wager mr. miller is riding transit around the bay area. that would be my guess. any other public comment on item 13? >> it is really just about the money and the folly of all this that we have a process that precedes to get ready for an e.i.r. and all i know is that it just sounds like a lot of oh my god, what are we doing here? on this agenda, there are very few items and