david pillpel. good afternoon. so first, two things here. one, when you're already done with this item, since you seem like you already are doing this, i would ask that you take item 12 and if that fails to pass, any actions that you take i believe would be null and void. i believe it's pretty important to take item 12, and i'm surprised that it's down on the calendar and not an early item. as to officers, i think any of you could and would do a fine job, and i want to appreciate not just the good work that all of you do on the commission but in particular as outgoing president maxwell indicated, she's been faced lots of times this year with difficult circumstances as have the other four of you, but i just wanted to appreciate president maxwell's work. i think we probably agree on greater than 90 or 95% of things, and where we may not, i think we respect each other very much, and so i appreciate her efforts and look forward to the new president and vice president. thanks again. >> operator: thank you for your comments. next caller, i've unmu

david pillpel. in the past, not all civil grand jury reports have been thorough or meaningful, and some have been fairly disregarded by city staff. i think that's not the case this year. i think there was a great job done on all of these reports, and the staff and city responses have been pretty thoughtful and nuanced and the work that everyone has done on this i think has been good and meaningful. although i think it takes a long time, i think it's worthwhile. i think you can address the policy questions here on van ness without involving liability issues, the cmgc method, the potholing, construction, and risk, i think all need a thoughtful response from the board, and finally, i thought it was interesting that both the m.t.a. and p.u.c. staff were both fairly defensive in their responses, but their boards were a lot less defensive and modified the responses to be more accommodating and understanding of the certains that the grand jury raised, so those are my -- concerns that the grand jury raised,

>> david pillpel again. so just f.y.i., tonight's website has the meeting tonight listed as a past meeting, although it still seems to be underway. i have previously worked with civil edge on a variety of other projects, and they do a great job, so i am very much looking forward to their work as the outreach consultant team. please post that information on the website because that was not posted before the meeting, a clear and comprehensive plan including all areas of outreach, including the scope and task that consultants think are necessary and who does what, so that question of whether or not elections is doing the translation or c.i.a. or someone at civic edge, one of their subs, is going to be critical. and if the task force is not having another meeting until november 1, which seems like a long way away, then i think at that november 1 meeting, the draft outreach plan should be before you for comment and possible approval. i just think that's important to capture all of what was in the presentation ton

>> david pillpel again. so just f.y.i., tonight's website has the meeting tonight listed as a past meeting, although it still seems to be underway. i have previously worked with civil edge on a variety of other projects, and they do a great job, so i am very much looking forward to their work as the outreach consultant team. please post that information on the website because that was not posted before the meeting, a clear and comprehensive plan including all areas of outreach, including the scope and task that consultants think are necessary and who does what, so that question of whether or not elections is doing the translation or c.i.a. or someone at civic edge, one of their subs, is going to be critical. and if the task force is not having another meeting until november 1, which seems like a long way away, then i think at that november 1 meeting, the draft outreach plan should be before you for comment and possible approval. i just think that's important to capture all of what was in the presentation ton

david pillpell. i have no concerns about the substantive proposal, but i could ask the city agencies and its components along with the city attorney and others have the capacity to implement these changes. i think that some city departments, some of the ones that i listed, maybe others may need additional resources staff dollars etc. to address these changes. i'm aware that the contracting units in all of the city departments including the centralized units are overstrapped as are all of us and many of us and so adding, yet, another component to what they're doing, i'm not sure that insurmountable is the word, but i do think they need the resources to do it. and are not inconsequential. those are my thoughts at this time. thanks. >> clerk: thank you. i'd just like to note that, if you have not already done so, please dial star three to be added to the queue to speak. for those on hold, please wait until you have been unmute. at this time, we currently have ten people on the phone waiting for public c

david pillpell. sorry i was having some technical issues this morning. so i only joined the meeting a few minutes ago. i will catch up on that discussion later. meanwhile, the sunshine ordinance test ran from 4:00 until past midnight this morning and so we're all a little sdonged after that. i would refer back to my comments about van ness from this committee's meeting last week and to recap part of that, i am frankly a little less concerned about walsh and the specific experiences on and more concerned about what this means and the lessons learned from the project delivery method and project m.t.a., p.u.c., d.p.w. and how we coordinate on both simple and frankly on the more complicated inner agency coordination projects and also with caltrans. what we think we know what's above and below ground and what we clearly don't know what's below ground and so the questions of potholing and risk and all of the coordination stuff really, those are absolutely policy issues to be wrestled with. there's no simple answer. i would encourage you to continue to monitor

david pillpel. in the past, not all civil grand jury reports have been thorough or meaningful, and some have been fairly disregarded by city staff. i think that's not the case this year. i think there was a great job done on all of these reports, and the staff and city responses have been pretty thoughtful and nuanced and the work that everyone has done on this i think has been good and meaningful. although i think it takes a long time, i think it's worthwhile. i think you can address the policy questions here on van ness without involving liability issues, the cmgc method, the potholing, construction, and risk, i think all need a thoughtful response from the board, and finally, i thought it was interesting that both the m.t.a. and p.u.c. staff were both fairly defensive in their responses, but their boards were a lot less defensive and modified the responses to be more accommodating and understanding of the certains that the grand jury raised, so those are my -- concerns that the grand jury raised,

david pillpell. sorry about my earlier comments about maps, i was trying to relate that to the agenda item. i agree with the concerns that were expressed now just about language and accessibility where that absolutely makes sense here. please, again, bear in mind that not everyone can juggle the challenging technical issues here. i do a lot of these meetings and so i'm pretty able to do this, but i'm presuming that at some point in the very near future, we're going to have a lot of people joining this from various neighborhoods and communities that have not been participating in city meetings on any platform on a regular basis and, some english speaking and some in other languages. i think it's very important that we slow down on occasion. take the time to explain the steps carefully in english where appropriate so that everyone can participate. this is very difficult both technically on redistricting it's also difficult doing this from home not in a room with people but in a virtual room and so than

>> yes, it's the >> caller: david pillpel. as with item 9a on this item the certification line and it should read meeting of and it's just omitting the word of. i have no substantive comments on this. thank you, very much. >> clerk: thank you for your comments. next caller, your line is open and you have two minutes to comment. >> caller: hello, my name is mark and i'm product of san francisco jcyc and protect pulse. i'm a san francisco native and in public schools. lowell high school and city college and sf state. funding these programs is crucial to our youth. for many, these programs are their first taste of professional development and so public speaking, constructing one report to go a supervisor, these are the skills we take for granted as a working professional and employers these are the skills you look for in applicants. and having this experience especially as a high school student, gets people ahead and ready for college and the workforce. i can personally say that my time in project pulse, has allowed me to reach t

david pillpell. sorry about my earlier comments about maps, i was trying to relate that to the agenda item. i agree with the concerns that were expressed now just about language and accessibility where that absolutely makes sense here. please, again, bear in mind that not everyone can juggle the challenging technical issues here. i do a lot of these meetings and so i'm pretty able to do this, but i'm presuming that at some point in the very near future, we're going to have a lot of people joining this from various neighborhoods and communities that have not been participating in city meetings on any platform on a regular basis and, some english speaking and some in other languages. i think it's very important that we slow down on occasion. take the time to explain the steps carefully in english where appropriate so that everyone can participate. this is very difficult both technically on redistricting it's also difficult doing this from home not in a room with people but in a virtual room and so than

david pillpel. of course, i very much appreciated the outside board's report. anyone who suggests that you as board members are not busy does not understand city hall or the various other outside boards and commissions and committees that you sit on, and that was an excellent report of all the activities going on. i was intending to call in support of item 47, the naming of the barbara taylor press room, but as i just heard from supervisor peskin, that's going to be redrafted into a resolution of intent with an ordinance to follow. just to tell a very brief barbara taylor story, one of her favorite lines that i loved was when she would ask a question, particularly when mayor brown was in office, and he would say, oh, barbara, you must be completely misinformed, which generally meant that she was right on target and asking the right question, and mayor brown didn't want to address this question or the issue, so barbara is definitely missed, and journalism in san francisco has not been nearly as good in her absence. i think i'll leave it at that for now, and than

david pillpell. sorry i was having some technical issues this morning.e meeting a few minutes ago. i will catch up on that discussion later. meanwhile, the sunshine ordinance test ran from 4:00 until past midnight this morning and so we're all a little sdonged after that. i would refer back to my comments about van ness from this committee's meeting last week and to recap part of that, i am frankly a little less concerned about walsh and the specific experiences on and more concerned about what this means and the lessons learned from the project delivery method and project m.t.a., p.u.c., d.p.w. and how we coordinate on both simple and frankly on the more complicated inner agency coordination projects and also with caltrans. what we think we know what's above and below ground and what we clearly don't know what's below ground and so the questions of potholing and risk and all of the coordination stuff really, those are absolutely policy issues to be wrestled with. there's no simple answer. i would encourage you to continue to monitor this and perhaps hav