and david priess joins us now.ficer, publisher of law fair and author of the book "the president' book of secrets", about the relationships between presidents and top secret intelligence. thank you for being on. i do think it is interesting, the question about liz cheney, because i think it is a compliment that many are saying maybe she should run for president. because what she did was hard. i mean, she had to make a choice that no one else in the republican party appears willing to make. so i'm just -- are you diminishing her accomplishments because the parallel with michael avenatti confused me just a little bit. >> i'm not diminishing her stance at all. in fact i'm championing it. and what adam kinzinger and liz cheney has done, they are standing for the constitution and the country before some idea of what partisanship should do. listen, liz cheney has been courageous. liz cheney has integrity. those are things we want in a president. that is absolutely true. but the point i was making is everybody who shows i

my next guest is david priess. he's a former fbi investigator. he's the author of several books including the presidents book of secrets, the untold story of intelligence briefings to america's president. david, i want to pick up exactly where we left off with carole. there must be people around the world. american spies, a very can sources of other countries, to despise. american people have been pride providing -- allies who have been providing americans with information. all of who must not be sleeping. wondering whether anything about them is sitting around mar-a-lago for 18 months. either inadvertently or having been traded for for something. >> it is a rough day for intelligence officers and their sources. that is for sure. listen, i think people suspected that some of this would be out there. even i, looking at this really carefully over the last two weeks, was not prepared to see that list of documents where it classification level, with the controls on them. >> controls on them that is the thing like each diaz to derive human information.

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with us is former cia intelligence officer david priess. was classified documents. >> right. >> for so long. what is it we need to know about all of this? >> we're spending a lot of time parsing out confidential versus secret versus top secret and within top secret, what are the compartments of information. the important thing is it's all classified information. this is all information judged to be important to the security of the united states. this is not the kind of thing steve and i could take home and work on at night. that's not how it works even at the confidential level. the difference at the confidential level t might reveal information that's important to national security but it doesn't compromise sources and methods of gaining future intelligence. once you get up through secret and top secret, you're getting to the kind of information that not only is jeopardized in and of itself, but if you release that, it can jeopardize future intelligence collection and, therefore, harm national security. >> you have critics, steve, saying di

jane heiman, is a distinguished fellow -- at the joining me now is doctor david priess. former cia officer, and daily intelligence briefing, to then fbi director and former -- he's also the publisher and chief operating officer of lawfare, he's the author of the presidents book of secrets and how to get rid of a president. david good to see you, thank you for joining us. i want to read something to you, hopefully i. it repeat is the fox news, donald trump has designated one of his representatives in the ongoing conversations, with the national archives, about these documents. read a statement, that mr. trump had a coat standing order during his presidency, that quote documents removed from the oval office, and taken to the residents where deemed to be classified the moment he removed them. and a quote. this sounds like the formation of a defense, or something. although none of the statutes cited about classified documents. have you heard of such a thing? to not happen? >> in theory, of course, it can happen. he's the president. while he is president, he does have the abi