we do not know that yet. >> rose: david remnick, thank you. >> thank you. >> rose: david remnick reporting in the "new yorker" magazine. back in a moment. stay with us. >> rose: rebecca miller is here, she has been an actress, a painter, a sculptor, director and short story writer. she's also a novelist and her new book is called "jacob's folly." it tells a story of an 18th century parisian jewish regent who has been reincarnated as a house fly in new york. the "new york times" callings it "delightful, bawdy, detailed and complicated." i'm pleased to have rebecca miller here. >> thank you. >> rose: let's go right to the book. here is jacob he's a peddler in paris in the 1th century and he's reincarnated as a fly. where did this idea come from? >> well, you know, the book is constructed like a three-stranded challah bread. so it's braided and i started with one character which was actually lesley, the fireman, volunteer fireman and he was having a pee on his front lawn at the cusp of dawn. and that was my first image. >> rose: that was your first visual image? >> i started with an image. th

and david remnick -- >> it's outrageous behavior. i have some sympathy what happened to cnn.e all day long. they got what they legitimate sourcing telling them there was an arrest. they turned out to be wrong, they corrected their mistake, this is something slapping on the front page of the newspaper of something not confidence at all. it harms someone's life. i give that guy a lot of credit to go on television and talk to you. that takes courage. >> actually, rupert murdoch said all of pictures were those distributed by the fbi. instantly withdrawn when the fbi changed direction. >> it was a lousy excuse. >> take responsibility and apologize? >> you bet. >> but how do we deal with this going forward, because we'll see this again and again and again. it's so easy to get that bad information out there so quickly. >> we actually need what the military do, we need to look at the question of lockdown, did boston about properly? how did the law enforcement cooperation go? i think journalists, media, people on the internet, need to look at what they did normal standards apply? how

david remnick, stay with us.n the set and also bob casey from pennsylvania and live from boston, lawrence o'donnell. up next, nbc justice correspondent pete williams. >> this guy is a superstar, by the way! the kids are talking about him and he has his own youtube channel. >> bobblehead doll. >> i bet he'll do a music video on the 1985 chicago bears. he is going to cooperstown! the humble back seat. we believe it can be the most valuable real estate on earth. ♪ that's why we designed our newest subaru from the back seat forward. introducing the all-new, completely restyled subaru forester. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed: the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ ♪ >

. >> let me play devil's advocate here, because we just had david remnick on who knows russia.e a person has sort of radical views, jihadist views and doesn't do anything, there is nothing wrong with that you don't commit the guy to jail. fair enough. but do you let him in the country? that's a question. >> and chris, you know, i think this does bring up questions about our asylum system, and about our relationship with russia and that whole issue, because this was a case where these guys sought political asylum and were taken in. not out of the common immigration system, but the asylum. were naturalized, one became a system. we trusted the intel coming from russia about these guys. >> and just because they don't like russia means they like us. it doesn't work that way. thank you, howard fineman. and now every family thinks alike. we're learning so much. when we return, let me return with what i witnessed this weekend up in boston. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. s ] ♪ ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. [ gasps ] this fiber one 90 calorie brownie ll the moist, chewy,