but let's make it really easy for them to find and make david rhodes, you are american.ur career primarily in the american does the idea of the kind of intervention that alex types of content get higher prominence than others, and now we're having that industry discussion at the table about should we invite government for some of the trends that are in the work that...? can i be blunt? we've got to keep government out ofjournalism. _ you can be blunt, but i'd also like to hear the end well, look, ithink there's two reasons now. one, it is absolutelyl the case and it's part video viewing been| to linear television. and get after that. ithink, though, you know, inviting in government, - which as news organisations, i we are supposed to be sceptical and i think there's also - a confirmation—bias problem through who is deserving of the prominence that i think the question for me is what is professionally produced up, who are regulated in some way, right? service broadcasting? i would consider that newspapers and other broadcasters are in that too. they are regulated by ofcom

david rhodes, you are american. you've had your career primarily in the american media market.e kind of intervention that alex advocates, algorithmic prominence, helping certain types of content get higher prominence than others, that are in the work that...? can i be blunt? we've got to keep government out ofjournalism. _ you can be blunt, but i'd also like to hear the end of david's question. well, look, i think there's two reasons now. one, it is absolutely the case and it's part of our sky news 2030 plan, _ that never have people watched more video. _ just never has a lower percentage _ of that video viewing been to linear television. - that we need to address which as news organisations, we iare supposed to be sceptical of| and asking them to sort of resolve this issue for us i creates some unintended consequences. _ and i think there's also - a confirmation—bias problem of if we try to attach some seal of approval— to the things that we do. who is deserving of the prominence that you're advocating for? i think the question for me is what is professionally produced by peop

it was in that moment that he was telling me, i want you to apply for the rhodes scholarship. davidyou got a rhodes scholarship, only 32 americans every year get them. you went to oxford. when you got there, did you study anything? gov. moore: i did, i got my masters in international relations. right now i am all but dissertation for my doctorate. in international relations. david: usually when people finish their rhodes scholarships and they get degrees or don't, they come back and run for office, they go to a private equity firm, they go to investment banking firm, they teach. you did something different. what did you do? gov. moore: what was interesting, initially i went to the world of finance and i remember getting a phone call from a friend of mine who at that time was a major. he called me -- a major in the army. he had just finished a tour in iraq and was getting deployed to afghanistan and he called me and said when are you gonna get in , the fight? it was such an indicting question and he was right. i had trained with all of these people, my airborne training, became a par

. >> joining us now, david rhodes, senior executive editor of national security at nbc news. author of the recent book where tyranny begins the justice department, the fbi, and the war on democracy. joyce vance also joins us. she's a former united states attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. welcome to both of you. david, you've been working till literally i just did that intro. you've got new information on on this fbi situation. >> yeah. there's a memo that was sent out by. >> the acting. >> director of the fbi. >> this is. >> just a career. >> person who really doesn't. >> have much power. but essentially the justice department. emil bove. >> the acting. >> deputy attorney general, has asked for a list of. >> every single. >> fbi agent in the. >> country who. >> worked on a january 6th prosecution. and the acting head of the fbi sent this, you know, across the workforce, but said that he understood this would mean thousands of fbi personnel who've worked on these. >> because it was it was the largest investigation. >> in american history. so these. >> fbi agents are not sel

federal law enforcement for nbc news, joins us now, along with nbc news national security editor david rhodee fbi, and the war on democracy. >> well, david, it seems just given the title of your book and the work that you've been doing, you're a good place to start there. there are. i've talked to agents, and i've also talked to people that have served in other administrations, many not fans of the fbi at all, for their own personal reasons, saying that what's going on right now is horrifying. it is their words in the best interest, not of the united states, but in the best interest of al qaeda, of isis, of china, of russia, of criminal gangs, of drug empires, you name it. anybody that seeks to do america ill. what what what we've been hearing throughout the weekend is this is their dream that you have an administration that is focused on looking inward in the fbi instead of looking outward at all of the different forces, malevolent forces that want to hurt america, that want to kill americans. and there are many and want to destroy this country. >> i can't describe to you how unusual all th