. >> during his list of accomplishments, our guest david rifken served from 1981 to 1989. n approach the administration could take in getting the question on the 2020 census. what is that approach? caller: administration -- guest: the administration can argue that it compels the giveal government to information on citizen numbers. it can be done by executive order, that the president would sign, ordering the department of commerce to put this question on the census. i also want to emphasize that the supreme court decision agoed two weeks specifically stated, by a majority, that it is admissible to ask this question. the congress did not block the president from doing that. the problem wasn't entirely procedural. it is certainly something that can be carried. it happens all the time where a government agency or department on asomething it has power stature to accomplish, but doesn't do it well. it happens to a bunch of upper agencies. host: when it comes to the section two of the 14th amendment, to read from the op-ed he wrote on this, you said the section two of the 14th a