but lydia molina said, spoke to david death roach, who david roach, who is a professor at the national defense university and a foreman major operations director. he explained how the conflict could play out. so it is a critical moment. i mean this, the collapse, the african government has been unexpected, unexpectedly rapid. and it's also been an areas that you don't expect it normally that the taliban is. passion, movement is hearts. but what they've been able to do is form alliances with leaders from other ethnic groups of beliefs in numerous province the respects and share begun province. and they've been able to, in effect, isolate the government of afghan garrison's. and for the most part, been able to just get them to surrender and conquer these capitals without shots being fired. is the full of couple now inevitable? i don't think it is no. what we're seeing is remote garrisons in isolated areas that are ethnically different from them for the most part. and that, you know, we're unwilling to risk their lives for regime that, you know, are leaders that have proven unable to supp

david roach is a former plato operations director. joint chiefs of staff. he says, time will tell if the u. s. mission was worth it or not. we never fully addressed corruption within the afghan government. and what we see here is not a military defeat. we've seen us failure of morale, a collapse of government, where forces decided not to fight because they had no confidence in their leaders. what we're seeing is this idea that you can build a modern military without having a corresponding civilian government and the, it's like painting over rust. i mean we, we had a civilian government that was fundamentally corrupted, tribal tried to built the modern military to support it. perhaps we ignored the clouds, which imperative that you have to have the people, the military, you know, and, and the government. and it failed. there has been a fundamental transformation of society in afghanistan, there's levels of education and empowerment of women. but if the taliban behaves the way they did before, you know, it's sort of a central ation coming ruge. then they can