i office also thought of david rohde. david rohde joins us now. his most recent book is in deep, the fbi, the cia and the truth about america's deep state. david, it's a real honor to have you with us tonight. thank you for making time. >> thank you, rachel. i'm amazed by that introduction. thank you. >> well, it's always, i've always been start of stunned by what you've been through. and how you've put yourself together again and got up and continued with what has been an astonishing career. david, i just wanted to ask you this on a personal level, what you've been through? given these unique set of circumstances and that ordeal, how do you feel about the president ending the war today? >> i feel relief. and what really struck me and impressed me about what you took away from my story is, the impossibility of winning this war because of the role of pakistan. and as long as pakistan continues to give the path taliban a safe haven, the place where i was held for seven months, it's an impossible were to win. i fear for my afghan friends. we're going

david rohde at that time was already a pulitzer prize winning journalist. once rohde escaped and got back to the taliban, his editor was interviewed in the united states and his editor was bewildered to report at the time to tell nbc news at the time that one of the first things david rohde did after escaping from his taliban kidnappers and getting himself to safety after seven plus months in captivity, one of the first things he did after getting himself free was to send an email to his editor at "the new york times" because he had some corrections he wanted to see in a story the times had just published. >> we begin with news of an incredible escape by an american held hostage by the taliban for more than seven months. david rohde was kidnapped in afghanistan in november. friday night, he and another man reportedly climbed over the wall of a compound where they were being held and fled to safety. >> he was taken prisoner on november 10, it makes it something like 222 days was my count in captivity. we had periodic contact with david himself or with the kid

i also thought of david rohde, and david rohde, now executive editor at the new yorker.com joins us now. his most recent book "in deep: the fbi and the truth about the u.s. state." thank you for making time. >> thank you, rachel, i'm amazed by that introduction, thank you. >> well, it's always -- i've always been sort of stun ed by what you've been through and how you've put yourself together again and got up and continued with what has been an astonishing career. david, i just wanted to ask you to at a personal level give us what you've been through, given these incredibly unique set of circumstances that you've been through in that ordeal, how do you feel about the president ending the war today? >> i feel relief and what really struck me and impressed me about what you took away from my story is the impossibility of winning this war because of the role of pakistan, and as long as pang -- pakistan continues to give the taliban a safe haven, the place i was held for seven months, it's an impossible war to win. i fear for my afghan friends. you know, we can talk more about that, they're