if the director feels so adamantly that i'm the guy and i respect the director, for example, david russhole is tremendous director. i just think he's -- there was movie that we were talking about doing, i didn't necessarily she the hook. he did. i would go on that journey with him. trusting that he knows more than i do about what i'm able to do. so i would do. that i would trust the director. that would be the reason that i would do it. >> charlie: i've heard actors sayy do the role until i see the clothes, until i put on something about the clothes to get a feeling of how i feel inside this actor. >> you know, for me, it has to happen way before that. way, way before that. that would only illuminate certain aspects of the character. i have not experienced yet not feeling that hook up until the day of the first wardrobe fitting. >> charlie: you've known it beforehand. >> give us an example of what hooks are. >> i'll give you example "paradise lost" studied it ip college, loved it. jason was a scholar. i loved the idea of lucifer being charismatic guy who you agree with basically. you ma