david sanders -- david sanders, we appreciate you being with us. you so much. >> thank you, professor. >> and again, we're just four minutes away from this news conference out of dallas. we'll be back in just a moment. means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing.g, and when weather hits, it's data mayhem. but airlines running hp end-to-end solutions are always calm during a storm. so if your business deals with the unexpected, hp big data and cloud solutions make sure you always know what's coming - and are ready for it. make it matter. this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day begins with arthritis pain and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns... that's two more pills. the evening's event brings laughter, joy, and more pain... when jamie says... what's that like six pills today? yeah... i can take 2 aleve for all day relief. really, and... and that's it. this is kathleen... for my arthritis pain, i now choose aleve. get all day arthritis pain relief with an easy-open cap. >>> good morning. so gl

david sanders from purdue university. we would like to hear from you both this morning. is your confidence level when it comes to how prepared u.s. hospitals are to treat an ebola patient if it were to go to them? >> actually, i'm very confident. and if anything, this event in dallas has given all hospitals once again a wakeup call and has been a lesson. hospitals are out there reviewing their infection control policies and procedures. they're training their personnel in how to use the protective gear that we would employ in the context of an ebola patient. and we're conducting drills. we at vanderbilt have had a fake ebola patient come in to our emergency room and then transferred to our intensive care unit. we all took notes during the process. you always learn something during drills. and so hospitals, even those in relatively remote areas now took a lesson from dallas and said, you know, that could happen here. so i think we're all increasingly aware and able to manage such patients. does that mean that glitches still couldn't occur? of course they could. these patie

david sanders, professor of biology science at purdue university telling "fox & friends" earlier thiseek there's enough evidence to suggest that the ebola virus could one day go airborne but just how real of a possibility is that? doctor, as ewell know, the cdc is saying that ebola is not spread through the air like the flu. do you agree >> yes, i agree with cdc and i don't really -- i don't think the likelihood of this becoming airborne is extremely low. anything can happen. could always be some mutation in the future. but the likelihood of that being airborne or in the future changes to that is extremely low. so, this could be just a scientific data that they did but i don't necessarily buy it. also depends on where this passenger is in spectrum of the disease. as you know, the symptoms go from two days to 21 days. is it in the first two days where the viral volume is low compared to when you're in day nine or day ten? all of those are factors. for example in this particular nurse she was getting symptomatic. if she's up in the plane and some rare instance she coughs and so those dr

david sanders and elizabeth cohen, thank you both.e speaking with you throughout the morning. >> thank you both. >> now we want to remind you thursday four of the nation's busiest airports are going to join jfk is rolling out the new ebola screenings. this is an effort to prevent the deadly virus from getting through airport gates and into the general public. >> jfk became the first airport in the country to implement the new procedures yesterday. officials are targeting passengers traveling from hard hit countries, guinea, sierra leone and liberia. >> the cdc warns there is still a risk. >> no matter how many of these procedures are put into place, we can't get the risk to zero. >> officials say screening will impact about 150 travelers per day. >> passengers can expect to have their temperatures read by trained medical professionals and be asked questions about their travel history. >> we'll continue to follow the breaking news of the first case of ebola contracted inside the u.s. but we want to get you caught up on another big stor

david sanders. thanks for being with me this morning. i appreciate it. still to come in the newsroom, a second student has died as the result of friday's shooting at a high school in suburban seattle. we'll have more for you after this. great rates and safety working in harmony. open an optimizer plus account from synchrony bank. service. security. savings. synchrony bank engage with us. and this is the new ♪this is iphone 6 plus. 6. they're the biggest iphones ever made. they're huge. yeah, but their size is just the beginning. even though they're huge. sure, sure. but they could change the way you see the world. oh, that is so huge. they could improve your health. huge! they're the biggest, most powerful iphones ever made. huuuuuuuggggeee! huuuuuuuggggeee! stop it, please. huuuuuuuggggeee! stop it... thank you. ♪ huge.♪ that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female ann

david sanders is a top ebola virologist and professor of biological sciences at purdue university. doctor, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> why do you believe that ebola could be transmitted via the air? >> there are two basic points, the first is that a very closely related virus called ebola reston is known to spread between animals by an airborne move, that's what all the evidence suggests. the second point is the result of our own research that shows that ebola zaire enters human lung cells from the airway side. so, it has the inherent capacity to enter the lung from the airway. now, i'm not saying that there's any evidence that the current spread is due to anything but bodily fluid contact, but we have to consider the possible that it can enter through an airway route. and the longer that the epidemic goes on in africa, the greater the chance of that happening. >> because the virus movers? >> the virus does mutate, morph, that's correct. okay. so, what are we to make of this nurse who is now infected? reports say that she was not one of the 48 that actually had

david sanders viroligist. you have studied ebola. does it have potential to be airborne? your react to -- reaction to this administration's strategy to ebola. >> can be transmitted with close contact of bodily fluids of a individual with systems of ebola. lou: doctor, is the administration being responsible or irresponsible in your view? given your research? >> i want to point-out there is no evidence that ebola is transmited by an airborne route. what our research has demonstrated is that the virus can enter the lung from the airway side, that is an important point. and there were a number of people who said that was impossible. our published research demonstrateed it was. other thing that viacomed on is the -- i have commented on the basis of the containment for ebola virus, that is that the hospitals that are being disignateed for containment have to be fueled. we cannot pec expects every hosl in the united states to be prepared to treat ebola patients. >> forgive me, i did not understand perhaps audience did not, those containment centers, 4 of them, have to be what?

. >> with his team at purdue university, biologist david sanders has been working with ebola for morethan a decade. initially, he only meant ebola to be as a carrier. what he learned confirms his caution that the ebola virus can attach itself to the lungs. >> what we were able to show is that the virus enters into the lung cells from the airway site. we actually have the data. that's second point. the receptors are on the lung cells and they are on the side of the lung cells, the same side influenza uses to get into the lung. >> the implication is that ebola is easier to spread than health officials realize. >> that is possible, the other possibility is the virus may have to change in order for it to be less subject to desiccation or able to survive on surfaces easier. >> sanders isn't a lone woofl in raising thin -- woofl in wolf i. national institutes of health the cdc and the united nations, sanders point out that very few scientific researchers have focused on ebola as he has. and there could be a disconnect between what scientists believe and what researchers see in the library.

. >> with his team at purdue university, biologist david sanders has been working with ebola for more than a decade. he meant to use it as a carrier to bring other molecules into the body. what he learned confirms his knowledge now, that the ebola virus can attach itself to the lungs. >> what we were able to show is that the virus enters into the lung cells from the air side. the receptor receptors are on te side of the lung cells as influenza virus uses to get into the young. >> it could be easier to spread than health officials realize. >> suppose i breathe. >> a molecule? >> that's possible. the virus may have to change in order to be less subject to december case ition o desiccation. >> sanders isn't a lone wolf in raising the possibility of easier transmission or mutation. infectious disease writer james osterholm, wrote an article. swatted down about by the nifs national institutes of health, cdc and w.h.o. there could be a disconnect between what first line health care workers believe and what scientists see in the laboratory. >> most people who were commenting were unfamiliar

joining me now is david sanders, a professor at purdue university. ant professor the anew york university school of medicine and our dr. sanjay gupta is back us with. could it become airborne? david, you've been studying ebola since 2003. you say ebola is prime to go airborne. why do you believe that? >> so we know from our own studies and those of our collaborators that ebola is capable of entering human airway tissue from the airway size. so lung tissue can be entered from the airway side. this is exact lit mode of entry that influenza takes to get into the lungs. i'm not saying -- and i reiterate, we have no evidence that in the current epidemic there has been airborne trans mission. however, when this issue is discussed, people frequently said there are no receptors on the lung, this can't happen and viruses don't change their mode of transmission. none those statements are in fact true. and that's why i have been trying to speak out on this. there are a few others that i was trying to make this point as well. >> in theory, it's possible. this hap

david sanders is a ebola viru gift, from vanderbilt university.et's start with the controversial point. you think it could mutate. that has been the big point of worry and debate. >> want to focus there is no evidence of airborne transmission at this point. melissa: yeah. >> that individual americans, as, individuals have nothing really to fear at this point. those are two important points. somebody else brought up idea of airborne transmission. there was a backlash saying against that, saying it was not possible for number of reasons. turns out several of those reasons were wrong. that is where i entered. they impinged on the research i've conducted, along with my collaborators we showed that ebola was capable of entering the lung from the airway side and people said, well, that can't happen. but it can happen. melissa: it can happen? >> that's right. so the virus -- melissa: you're saying it can happen but we shouldn't be worried about it? >> that's right. melissa: why? >> but we have no evidence that is how it is currently being transmitted. me

david sanders on the fox news channel earlier this morning. come in kevin campbell, dr. kevin campbell. you heard what he had to say. he is implying that if somebody with ebola sneezes and you breeze in the ec's you can get ebola. that is a form of airborne that acts to the anxiety. would you make of what the doctor just said? >> adds to the anxiety but i want to emphasize as of now it is not airborne. what the doctor from perdue is saying is true. he has seen the ability of this virus to mutate and it can you take quickly and ultimately as this continues to breed in west africa and now in america and we have more cases the chances of mutation are greater and i think this is a possibility down the line. stuart: that is why the public is spooked because there is a possibility of this happening. there is no certainty that it can be contained. that is the problem, isn't it? >> it absolutely is. there's a paper already published in science that shows within the first 20 days of the outbreak there were 400 different mutations in 70 patients with ebola. imagines those numbers

david sanders joins us. you just scared the devil out of a lot of people.ou have got to tell us how it could mutate to become airborne. whatever the odds of it doing that, what is the risk of doing that, put it in some context? >> thanks for the opportunity. i am not trying to scare anybody. i want to start by saying there is no evidence for airborne transmission at this time. it is transmitted through close contact of bodily fluids so that is the case now. i entered into this discussion because there was an audit in the new york times which suggested it could go airborne. there was a lot of backlash against that and the reason people were suggesting that it couldn't included that the virus couldn't get into the lungs, viruses don't change their mode of transmission, it's ivy hasn't become airborne. all of those reasons were either false or irrelevant and that is how i ended the discussion. stuart: give me the possibility. the odds. the probability. >> that i can do. i wish i could do that. i can't do that. i can tell you, we know -- everybody in the ebola

david sanders, a professor of biological science has been constituted dick ebola for more than a decade says there's more than one way to transfer a virus. doctor, thank you for being with us this morning. a lot of concern out there because it seems there's far more that we don't know than we do especially this on the heels of the university making that announcement that in fact this is a second health care worker that has tested positive for ebola. i think on the minds of americans is how easy, easily is this transmitted? can it in fact be airborne as well? >> it's a great question. at this time we have no evidence for airborne transmission. it seems to be transmitted solely by bodily fluids. but the question has arisen, there was an article in "the new york times" questioning whether it can go airborne. there was a lot of reaction saying no it's not possible, it can't get into the lungs. well, it turns out that our own research that we publish with our collaborators demonstrate that ebola has the inherent capacity to enter lung tissue, human lung touche from the airway side just -- hu

joining us is david sanders.as a quality fedora on, moving on from that, what is the bottom line real deal about pets and this virus? >> so we know dogs can be infected but they don't seem to have the same symptoms that humans have. >> can they give it to the owner or someone else? >> okay. we don't foe that answer. so it wouldn't be transmitted the same way because they don't have the same symptoms. we know that most of the viruses that we know don't harm their natural hosts, but they can hop from those natural hosts to other org films there so have fruit bats given ebought la to humans? >> there are two possibilities, with sun there was a direct transmission. the other is there was an intermediary of a non-human prime eight and the virus entered in the humans in the bush meat trade. >> you won't get much feedback on what you do to a fruit bat with ebola. a dog, we'll have serious sensitivity. what do we know what we can do with a dog with a virus? >> we know relatively little. we don't understand the course of

keach: archaeologists bill sanders and david webster led a four-year excavation at this site, known as the house of the bacabs. sanders: this is a very impressive household. when we finished excavating all of the buildings and all of the courtyards, we discovered that a population of some 200 to 250 people were close relatives probably or retainers of some kind to a single family and lord who lived in one of the units within this large mass of masonry that you see here. he lived in a very palatial house with a sculpted facade, had a vaulted roof on it. so clearly he was a man of great power and wealth. keach: and what else did the symbolism reveal about this man ? in 1980, excavators began to push heaps of stone and earth aside to reveal walls and steps. archaeologist bill fash was part of the excavation team. fash: during that process we also discovered that the whole building had been covered with sculpture, because there were literally hundreds of fragments of sculpture. what we wanted to find out was what these symbols meant. why were they placed on the buildings ? what could they

hal sanders was an undersecretary of state at the time. he was at camp david. before the summit took place he went down to the historian at the state department and the, has this ever happened before? you know, and the historian said yeah, in american diplomatic history as one example, which was teddy roosevelt in the russian-japanese war, the first great war of the 20th century. roosevelt invited envoys on both sides and he took them to portsmouth, actually in maine budgets across from the portsmouth naval facility, pretty secluded, and there they hammered out a peace treaty. george mitchell in northern ireland is an example. the soviets, but really in the whole history of the world there's just a whole lot of examples where two warring parties are brought together and compelled to make peace. my favorite example is in the 15th century when pope alexander the vi or solenoid that decided to resolve the dispute between the spanish and portuguese, so he divided the world between the two of them. the spanish were going to get the new world, and there was a line on

hal sanders was an undersecretary of state at the time. he was at camp david. before the summit took place he went down to the historian at the state department and the, has this ever happened before? you know, and the historian said yeah, in american diplomatic history as one example, which was

sit down -- david axelrod will be on set and bernie sanders. and jon huntsman sr. will be here to explain how he went from bare feet to billions. >> i want to do that. >> a denver broncos fans goes missing for days and then shows up 130 miles away? we'll tell you what happened there. >>> wasting time on the internet. we'll tell you which ivy league school is offering that as a college class. that's good stuff. we'll be right back. (boys screaming) totino's pizza rolls... ready so fast, ...it's scary! transit fares! as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. no? oh, right. you're thinking of the 1.6 million daily customer care interactions xerox handles. or the 900 million health insurance claims we process. so, it's no surprise to you that companies depend on today's xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. which is...pretty much what we've always stood for. with xerox, you're ready for real business. wa single ember thatch whescapes from a wildfireor. can travel more than a mile. that single ember can ignite and destroy your home or

sanders, ranking member burr, members of the committee. thank you for the opportunity to testify before you. i am david holberg, national center for public policy research. i think the most important lesson we can learn from other nations, most politicians want to get re-elected that fact will have a substantial impact on policy. groups with clout that can influence a politician's re-election chances are more likely to get good treatment under government-run health care systems. groups that lack such clout will receive inferrior care. people who are ill lack political clout. the very sick are few in number, too limited to have impact on elections, and political activities, protesting and so forth that can bring about change in health care policy. ultimately, under a government system, those with the most medical need are those most likely to get the care they need. denmark and france provide good examples of this. the healthcare system in denmark is single payer, government financing 85% of health care expendittures it is largely free at the consumpg. if patients pay nothing at the point of consumption

sanders, ranking member burr, members of the committee. thank you for the opportunity to testify before you. i am david holberg, national center for public policy research. i think the most important lesson we can learn from other nations, most politicians want to get re-elected that fact will have a substantial impact on policy. groups with clout that can influence a politician's re-election chances are more likely to get good treatment under government-run health care systems. groups that lack such clout will receive inferrior care. people who are ill lack political clout. the very sick are few in number, too limited to have impact on elections, and political activities, protesting and so forth that can bring about change in health care policy. ultimately, under a government system, those with the most medical need are those most likely to get the care they need. denmark and france provide good examples of this. the healthcare system in denmark is single payer, government financing 85% of health care expendittures it is largely free at the consumpg. if patients pay nothing at the point of consumption

sanders, ranking members burr, members of the committee. thank you for this opportunity to testify before you. my name is david hogberg. i think the most important lesson we can learn from other nations is that we should avoid putting more and more of our health care. a substantial impact on policy. reelection chances are more likely to get good treatment under government run health care systems. groups that lack such cloud are more likely to be neglected by politicians and receive inferior care. too limited to have much impact on elections. second, they are too sick to engage in the type of political activity such as organizing, protesting and so forth. those with the most medical need are those most likely to have the difficulty getting the care they need. denmark and france provide good examples of this. could be described as single payer with over 85% of health care expenditures. largely free at the point of consumption. this has consequences for how health care resources are allocated. if patients pay nothing at the point of consumption, they'll overuse health care putting strain on government budgets. health care

. >> chairman sanders, ranking member burr, members of the committee, thank you for this opportunity to testify before you. my name is david hogberg and i am a health care policy analyst for the national center for public policy research. i think the most important lesson we can learn from other nations is that we should avoid putting more and more of your health care system under the control of politicians. most politicians want to get re-elected and that fact will have a substantial impact on health care policy. groups that have political clout that can influence a politician's re-election chances are more likely to get good treatment under government-run health care systems. groups that lack such clout are more likely to be neglected by politicians and sear inferior care. people who are very ill usually lack such political clout. first, the very sick are relatively few in number which means they amount to a limited number of voters, too limited to have much impact on elections. second, they are too sick to engage in the type of political activities such as organizing, protesting, and so forth that can bring about change