joining me now from boston to take a closer look is "new york times" national security correspondent david sanger. david, you interviewed with your colleague mollie hiberman, donald trump a couple of times last spring, and he talked about foreign policy, 92n nato being e of them. >> his screw that nato ought to be focused totally on terrorism. he feels it's an obsolete organization, and he said nearly nothing about its role about helping to contain russia, once the soviet union. i asked him if some of the newer members of nato that were previously soviet states if they were invaded would he come to their defense which is required under the nato treaty. he said first, i would be check what their level of contribution had been to nato. and that's quite a departure, because the commitment of the united states and other members have are basically an attack on one is an attack on all. the question is, is this a negotiating tactic or does this indicate a fundamental rethinking of what nato should be? >> stewart: it's interesting one of the goals of nato for its 28 members is that each will intend 2% of

. >> rose: also weighing in on the transition announcement today, david sanger of the "new york times" and karen de young of "the washington post." >> the president runs foreign policy and, regardless of what arguments you have and who's up and who's down and who's strong, what usually happens is what the president wants to happen, and, so, i think you're right that one of the questions will be to what extent the national security advisor sees his job to put a break on the president as opposed to not only being a spokesperson and counselor to the president but someone who has strong views on his own. >> rose: david remnick, michele flournoy, david sanger and kern kern, when we >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: david remnick is the editor of the "new yorker." he recently sat down with president obama over two pivotal days the friday before the election an

. >> it caught my attention in your book you did mention the guardian and you also mentioned david sanger of "the new york times." i wrote down the quote where he mentioned that they were eloquent and occasionally entertaining. he it was very interesting these reactions. on the other hand you have been italian foreign minister franco lefty who described november 28 quote as the september 11 of -- from what you have just described it didn't sound like you view it as the same. >> we survived. but it's interesting that it wasn't a one-off. we had the dnc scandal a month or two ago. i think we could see a part of government life and the speed and the multiplicity of which we communicate with each other now not only with long cables À la george kennan but short e-mails, social media. all of that is going to be part of the body politic. understanding how to classify it and have been adjudicated and how to know when something needs to be secret and know when to share it is something i think is very much in debate. hillary clinton's e-mails ignited a lot of that debate and the volume at which we

laura: for more on the foreign-policy challenges the president-elect will face, i spoke with david sanger, the national security correspondent for "the new york times." he said on syria he wants to work with russia against islamic state. but here we have today president obama successor to stand up to russia. how difficult is that going to be? david: this is going to be one of the big early test of mr. trump and his philosophy, because on russia, he not only differs from the obama administration, he differs from the mainstream of the republican party which since the days of the cold war has been pretty reflexively anti-first soviet and anti-russian. so it is hard to find many fans of putin. many republicans have said to me that they believe that there's no harm to try a better relationship with russia but they think at some moment mr. trump will discover he has been either challenged or toyed with by putin. >> i'm sure vladimir putin will do something early on -- maybe he will do something on nato's eastern flank. would learn about donald trump -- what are we going to learn about donald tr

times" national political reporter alex burns and "new york times" national security correspondent david sanger. david, let me start with you. what do you believe the plus/minus is on this election by the latest intrusion by jim comey? >> well, in the end, i actually think that we are going to need more for jim comey than we will for hillary clinton or donald trump. what you're going to see here is that many people who supported secretary clinton, i think in the end, didn't put a whole lot of credence in a last-minute announcement and now that has been confirmed. and those who believe that secretary clinton is guilty of something here probably aren't going to have their opinion changed very much by whatever announcement he's made. but i think mr. comey didn't come out of it looking so good with these two, you know, just before election seemingly contradictory announcements. >> carl, i just went at it with jason miller about two things. one is how the reopening of the case meant and refusing to acknowledge the fbi's decision now. but what is your take? >> my take is that hillary clinton exercise

brad: david sanger had a piece in the new york times highlighting the possibilities of next week. of your colleagues said he thought the ultimate intent of hackers was not to change the discredit it and throw a question mark over the results. george: i think when you look at what has transpired from a we have done and how the government has come out and named russia as one of the actors, i think this is one of the same things as the past. cyber is a new medium. in the past, whether it was in the 1950's, 1960's, 1970's, it was a similar methodology of trying to introduce chaos where you can. this is just another way to do this, through cyber. i think if we look at the election and what we have done so far, people are asking questions. what does it all mean, are the elections going to be hacked? talking point that helps to destabilize what is going on. brad: has russia done this in the past? allegations that maybe they got involved in the ukrainian election with similar tactics. cannot give us a guidepost for the next week? george: they are a very capable adversary, certainly very g

>> we continue our analysis of the trump transition team with karen deyoung of the washington david sangerf the new york times. they join me from washington. begin with michael flynn. what should we expect from him security advisor? >> well, charlie -- i'm sorry. ahead, karen. >> no. i was just going to say, you know, certainly general flynn has a lot of experience in intelligence and a lot of experience in the military. he's a controversial character on a number of fronts. to i think it's important remember what the national security advisor is supposed to the job?is the job is to give advice to the president. not morely, if important, it is to serve as the synthesizer of the dviews of other national securiy the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, the intelligence agency, and be kind of good-faith conduit of those views to the president. now, general flynn has very strong views of his own. i don't know that those come intoy will conflict with those of the principles,urity because those that we know of right now would indicate that is not necessarily a team of rivals. that genera

. >> david sanger from the "new york times."ant to take one more shot to get your thinking about what kind of actions the united states might take given the conditions we find ourselves with the election grex maybe the way is to ask what you think the next election cycle for years from now could look like once the world sees the foreign power has come in? even if they do nothing more between now and election day call into question some of the integrity of the election system just by a and doing whatever they have done with of registration or e-mail's lots of government steel e-mail's but publishing was new. is not responded to what does that look like at the 20/20 election cycle? >> i may columnist on foreign policy. and write books on nsa. one to go back to the issue of accountability at nsa that while you were there edward snowden walked out with 1.7 million pages of documents. martin part of the time all you were there walked out with half a billion pages of documents so wasn't just from one little place the different locatio

wikileaks was just one of five potential types of hacks that the legendary david sanger of "the new yorktimes" wrote the american public might have to worry about in conjunction with tuesday's elections. the others, he said, include interfering with voter rolls, manipulating the vote tally that gets reported to news organizations, tinkering with voting machines, and a general internet disruption that would keep the public in the dark and potentially away from polling places. john, based on the previous hacks and potential future hacks, where do those stands? not a huge friday surprise, but where do day stand between now and tuesday? >> i think all of the rest of the thing we heard, all the things on that list are just, are basically background noise at this point. we know these last 72 hours, you have to have a big thing to really break through. none of those things qualify. i think some of the foundation stuff could be a real problem for hillary clinton if she becomes president of the united states and that will linger. this hacking thing, though, as you know, i went down and talked to