ambassador to the united nations danny da known and cnn political and national security analyst david sanger. welcome to the program. david, i want to start with you and with the news we just heard because i was going to start this discussion by asking what the u.s. can do to kind of de-escalate things, deal with the tensions. what is your reaction to this reporting? >> clearly, the u.s. has decided to step up a bit the pressure on these iranian proxy groups. if you think about the past 24 hours, there was this warning to the houthis who are armed completely by the iranians the red sea. they are the ones who have been doing the attacks on much of the cargo that has been running through the red sea, and a senior administration official told us yesterday this would be the final warning to the houthis, suggesting that strikes could follow after that. they were nonspecific. then to have this strike inside iraq is particularly fascinating because president biden has been very hesitant to do strikes in iraq for fear of destabilizing the iraqi government. but it's gotten more difficult because that

. >> joining us now, "new york times" white house and national security correspondent david sanger. vid, good saturday to you. let's start here with the question i asked colonel lleyton in a purely military perspective, i now want this in a geopolitical perspective considering the tensions in the region, the administration says that this is avoiding an escalation. is this indeed an escalation what we have seen over these last two days? >> well, victor, thanks and good morning. it's a really interesting question because, you know, one country's effort to restore deterrence, which is what the u.s. says it's doing, is the receiving end country's escalatory activity. there's no science here. it's all a question of how it is perceived on the different sides. you saw massive protests, anti-american protests yesterday in yemen that looked like tens of thousands of people out. so, clearly the people of yemen consider this to be a violation of sovereignty at a minimum and an escalation perhaps. at the same time, if you believe the pentagon, what they've done is taken out enough of the infrast

david sanger, thank you so much for being with me.reciate it. >> great to be with you. >>> and all of this happening as president biden there in south carolina. you see representative clyburn alongside him. he did comment about these three u.s. troops that have been killed and others injured there. let's go to cnn's priscilla alvarez who is traveling with the president in south carolina. natasha bertrand is also with us, but first to you, priscilla. what did the president say? >> president joe biden stopping at a lunch in south carolina where he provided some brief remarks about the attack last night calling it, quote, a tough night. also saying that we lost three brave souls. he went on to hold a moment of silence and then said that we will respond as an extension of his statement earlier today where he also suggested that the u.s. will retaliate and hold those accountable as the u.s. continues to gather more facts. president biden was briefed this morning by his national security team. there was a follow-up briefing this afternoon w

here with us now we have political and national security analyst david sanger. he is the white house and national security correspondent for the new york times. david the biden demonstration really seems to think or at least tried to be communicating or i don't know trying to create the netanyahu may be open to a two state solution. you have heard some verbal gymnastics in your time when it comes to diplomacy. and that is a backwards somersault followed by a front handspring. translate what is going on here.>> this is pretty simple. we've got no illusions about where prime minister netanyahu is on this issue. he has been consistent on this issue for a long long time. he has been opposed to a two state solution. he has been opposed to a palestinian state. at some moments he suppressed those words so that he could get through on meeting with you may recall this came up often with president obama. but not just with president obama. but now after the october 7th attacks, he is being very clear. he is saying if there is a separate augustinian state it will be used as

david sanger, thank you so much for your incites. >>> u.n. agency in gaza is urging countries to reconsider cutting off funding over allegations that staff members were involved in the october 7 hamas attacks on israel. australia uaustralia is the lat suspend funding for unrwa. officials are trying to work out a hostage release deal and pause in the fighting in gaza. for more, let's bring in paula hancocks. let's begin with the latest on these discussions. are we any closer to a potential cease fire/release deal? >> reporter: well, it appears that we may be closer than he were with a couple weeks ago, at least now the sides are talking. there was a meeting in paris between the intelligence chiefs of the u.s., israel and qatar. and egypt. and obviously those are the key players for any kind of deal to be done. we were told the meeting was constructive. this was from a statement from israel's prime minister's office. but also said significant gaps remain. we know that there has been tension as well between the players who are trying to negotiat

david sanger, thank you as always. >>> boeing ceo promising 100% transparency. also acknowledging in his words, quote, a mistake after part of a plane blew off mid flight leaving a gaping hole in a jet. >>> we're learning more about the investigation into the terrifying incident on board an alaska airlines flight on friday when part of the plane blew off in the middle of the flight. we spoke to the woman leading the investigation, chair of the national transportation safety board. and i asked her if max 9 should be flying at all anywhere until the key questions are answered. >> i would recommend that they not put those back in service until they absolutely know how this occurred. that will tell them what inspections need to take place and what repairs need to take place. >> this comes as boeing ceo as address the employees and he said that it would never happen again and he vowed complete transparency. pete muntean is joining us. what is the latest especially on what we heard from the head of boeing? >> you got to hand it to the ntsb chair for being the public f

joining us to discuss is david sanger from "the new york times," david, i want to start there becauset had been extended for several months for it to take position where it had. and yet, its departure comes at a very tenuous moment right now. why do they pull it out? >> it's a really interesting question because they -- i think they had to balance both the amount of time it's been out and the concerns about whether or not a new front with open up with hezbollah coming out of lebanon or not. the eisenhower is the one that is seeing the most action lately, including over the past weekend when a pretty remarkable conflict group of houthi fighters who were on small boats trying to attack a commercial freighter ended up firing on u.s. navy helicopters. and the navy sank three of these small boats. the houthis maintain that they had ten killed. so that's going to be a pretty active rejn. and, i think there's going to be a lot of concern in the area that they are pulling ford out of the coast of israel there. >> david, you've also been writing about the u.s. helicopters that sank three houth

with us, cnn political and national analyst, david sanger, nice to have you in person. >> great to be here. >> it seems like further evidence of the growing divide between netanyahu and the biden administration. because netanyahu is saying, you know, even our friends we can say no to, and the biden administration has been clear from day one, two-state solution. >> you know, what's stunning about this is that the prime minister has been nothing if not consistent. but at every single step of the wa way he has gone out of his way we are not going to be dictated to by the united states about how we're going to go about this, and the next breath, they say, where's the $14 billion that you promised to help us in the war. and this is going to raise the really central question for president biden, which is he's been extraordinarily clear about his goals, he's been very supportive of getting the money to israel, which obviously they need to continue against hamas. what they won't say is whether the money is conditioned. and, you know, all aid from the united states is conditioned. we condition

let's bring in analyst david sanger. he is white house and national correspondent for the "new york times." great to have you. >> good morning, kasie. great to be here. >> in the past five days alone, u.s. targeted and killed a pro iran militia commander, isis claimed responsibility for the deadly attack in iran, and israel killed a senior hamas leader in beirut. and u.s. helicopters sank three houthi rebel boats in the red sea after they came under fire. this is a lot. can you help us understand just how much of a tinderbox this is and what is the concerns? >> it is a big teninderbox. and on the firing on the houthi boats, there were apparently ten houthi militants killed in all of that. so with we have for the first time really in a while we've seen the united states in sort of direct cam bat with some of the iranian proxies. so that raises the question are we headed in to something much bigger with iranbat with some o the iranian proxies. so that raises the question are we headed in to something much bigger with iran

. >> let's bring in analyst for the "new york times," david sanger, and military analyst, and retired air force colonel cedric leighton. good to see both of you this morning. i picking up where natasha left off, one of the things he wrote that stood out was the real need. the credibility of u.s. power was on the line. an imperative to establish deterrence, because the calls for deterrence were not working. when will the u.s. know whether that was effective and that goal was achieved? >> it's a really good question because the fine line is establishing deterrence and the provocation of a continuing war. that's been the debate taking place within the white house for weeks now. they could have done these strikes two weeks ago. they could have done them two months ago. the reason they didn't want to was that they were concerned about opening essentially a third front in the war. obviously gaza's one, increasingly lebanon and the hezbollah attacks there are second, and here they wanted to do something that would basically quiet this problem. and of course it's the red sea problem that is g

let's bring in national security analyst david sanger. good morning to you. thank you for being with us this morning. the white house in a tight spot here. you have a new piece out in the times outlining what some of their options are and the various risks associated with them. can you walk us through how you think about what's on the table here? >> sure. good morning. the problem with the choices that the president has is that they range from the unsatisfactory on one end to the very risky at the other. the unsfar satisfactory version is to do more of what he's been doing, which is hitting the proxy groups that are using iranianen arms or intelligence or money, but aren'ts necessarily taking their instructions and their targeting from tehran. they can do that. the problem is they have been doing that for weeks in syria, in iraq and in yemen. so far, it has not been a deterrent. at the other end of the extreme is to strike the iranians in iran, which is what many republican critics have been calling for him to do saying it's a sign of weakness if they didn't.

. >>> well, for more analysis we're joined by david sanger, a cnn political and national security analysthe's joining us live from berlin, good to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> so david, as we have been discussing, there's been a huge uptick in attacks in the region, and attacks on u.s. personnel by iranian-backed proxies. how will the u.s. secretary of state seek to reduce tensions during this trip? >> well, as you heard in that report, lynda, from nic robertson, he's flying into a pretty complex situation, he's, i think, hitting six or seven different stops, and he's got a few missions. the first one, as you suggest, is to try to keep this from turning into a wider war, to some degree that's beyond the control of any of those he is visiting because the groups that have been launching these attacks are almost entirely iranian-backed, and of course iran is the country with which the united states has no diplomatic relations, he's not visiting there. and so, all he's doing is talking to people who he hopes will be talking to the iranians. when he gets to israel, it's really

let's discuss with david sanger, also national security correspondent for the "new york times." david, thanks so much for coming back on the program. what's your reaction to what has taken place? this drone being shot down? what's going on? >> the drone was sort of the least of it for all the things that have been going on in the past week. think of the list. the israelis kill a mosque leader with a missile in lebanon. we have the united states sink three houthi ships. the houthis of course being iranian controlled armed finance and killing ten of the houthi fighters when they had opened fire on a us navy helicopter. we had the u.s. shoot missiles at and kill a militant in iraq, in baghdad. a place that president biden usually does not like to be conducting military operations. that's just in the past week. and see listening to your last panel, jim, about the huge debate we're having underway about democracy, which we need to have for sure. it's the critical issue of this election. the other critical issue of this election is we've got two active wars underway here in which we're

and interview him we have none other than our close friend and "new york times" correspondent david sanger. and you very much. [applause] >> well, thank you very much. thank you, anja. senator risch, general cotton, thank you so much for joining us. you can tell that this is aspen in washington and the aspen aspen because we were all wearing neckties. the downside of aspen in washington. so we're going to talk a good deal about the great power competition with china and russia. but i wanted to start the conversation today, general cotton, with you on a topic you and i've been talking about on and off, which has been the differences between this era and the cold war that we knew. you often made the point this is not cold war 2.0. it's quite different. and quite more complex. and so just wanted you to play out that argument a bit. we'll ask senator risch to comment on that as well. >> well, thank you. i think fundamentally since the advent of -- [inaudible] we've never had two new peer competitors. and for the first time with two new peer competitors. we talk about cold war, the concern and