. >> meanwhile, back in west palm, cnn's political and national security analyst david sanger attended that news conference on tuesday, and he pressed trump on his territorial ambitions. >> can you assure the world that as you try to get control of these areas, you are not going to use military or economic coercion? no. are you going to negotiate a new treaty? are you going to ask the canadians to hold a vote? what what is the strategy? >> i can assure you, you're talking about panama and greenland. no, i can't assure you on either of those two. but i can say this. we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for our military. military? i'm not going to commit to that now. >> for more, we're joined by the man who you just saw speaking to trump in that clip, david sanger. he's cnn political and national security analyst and also author of the book new cold wars china's rise, russia's invasion and america's struggle to defend the west. david, let's dive right in here. how much of these calls for control of the panama canal? greenland, of course. we heard canada again. h

joining us now, cnn political and national security analyst david sanger. o, the white house national security correspondent for the new york times. david, i saw you also about 12 hours ago on that same program where i spoke with mr. kirby, with admiral kirby. thanks very much for being up early with us as well. what do you make of where we are, where this deal is, how far, how close we are to the line, and what is your understanding of the dynamics between the incoming and outgoing administrations and the role that the pressure trump is putting on this is playing here. >> well, first, i think we we are close, casey, but we've been close before, as described to me by everybody who's involved. >> never quite this close because at this point, some of the big issues, including keeping israeli troops for some period of time in gaza, seem to have been resolved. there's some question about how many hostages are still alive. and thus, if you got 33, as you heard, i've heard 34 hostages out, would that be two thirds of those who are still alive? would that be only h

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cnn political and national security analyst david sanger questioned trump about his territorial intentions. >> can you assure the world that, as you try to get control of these areas, you are not going to use military or economic coercion? no. are you going to negotiate a new treaty? are you going to ask the canadians to hold a vote? what what is the strategy? >> i can assure you, you're talking about panama and greenland. no, i can assure you on either of those two. but i can say this. we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for our military. military? i'm not going to commit to that now for more, we're joined by the man who you just saw speaking to trump in that clip, david sanger. >> he's cnn political and national security analyst and also author of the book new cold wars china's rise, russia's invasion and america's struggle to defend the west. david, let's dive right in here. how much of these calls for control of the panama canal? greenland. of course we heard canada again. how much of this is all just classic donald trump performing or posturing? and then how

. >> i want to bring in cnn political and national security analyst david sanger. david, good to see you. i know the philosophy of if you build it, they will come. if you threaten, will they make them here? >> well, we're about to discover that laura and what we did see in the in the presentation to the davos group was the most nationalistic approach to both trade and diplomacy that we've seen in some time, even more so than the first term. uh, that president trump had. he made the argument that you had to come to the united states. he made the argument that he and he alone would go negotiate an end to the ukraine war. he made the argument that basically nothing mattered other than the direct negotiation between other countries and the united states. so, in other words, the whole structure to avoid trade wars, to have groups of allies together, that the u.s. built after world war two. he's basically walking away from. and then he said, every european country had to go, um, donate, donate. uh, contribute. 5% of their gdp to defense, which might make perfect sense, ex

also with us, david sanger of the new york times. and, david, we really should emphasize this is still a very precarious agreement that could fall apart at any moment. >> it could. >> i mean, it's very hopeful. >> this is the closest they've gotten. >> and, you know, we've been through this for 13 months. >> tomorrow it's got to get through the israeli security cabinet and the israeli general cabinet could bring down netanyahu's government. >> his right wing is still opposed. hamas presumably has agreed to this. but the hamas leadership is incredibly fractured in after, of course, the death of their leader, sinwar and so forth. and then you've actually got to execute on this. and there's some question about whether hamas knows where each one of these hostages are, how long it may take to get them all together. there are 33 in this first group. we're not sure how many are alive. beyond that, it will be a joyous occasion when those 33 get reunited, but it's going to be pretty tense about all of the rest. >> yeah, and evelyn, president-e

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of the stars of that exchange, new york times, white house and national security correspondent david sanger, and executive director of the mccain institute evelyn farkas. >> david, that answer that he gave to you with your terrific question there. how did you read that? did you read that as a genuine threat, that maybe military coercion will be necessary? >> well, the reason i asked the question, john, was that i had heard that he has considered and raised privately the possibility that he may need to use other elements of american power to force his will here. and you'll remember in the first term he floated the idea of the united states buying greenland. he's not the first president to do that. harry truman suggested it in the 1940s. um, greenland said it wasn't interested in selling. and, you know, in most real estate transactions at that point, you sort of go away and say, let me know if you ever change your mind. but he has not dropped this. he's expanded it. and now to the panama canal. and then with his jokes, which have now taken a more menacing sound, that canada should become the

all right, let's get more on this deal from another perspective with us now, david sanger, he is a cnn political and national security analyst. he's also author of the book new cold wars. great to see you, david. >> good to see you. >> so how hopeful are you that this phase one of the deal will happen and will go smoothly? >> i think it will happen. >> i doubt it will go smoothly because these things rarely do. and because there's so much time being in which this will unspool. about six weeks. um, the difficulty i think, that we'll run into is that while we know that there are 33, uh, israelis or israelis and americans who will be released in this first phase, clearly not all of them are alive. and i think that, you know, the joy of seeing the first 3 or 4 tomorrow will be dampened later on as we discover that others did not survive. and i think the second problem is that prime minister netanyahu is going to have to hold together his coalition through whatever bumps this gets to along the way. i think the big challenge is what does president trump do to set himself up for phase two? th

david sanger, let me start with you. you, of course, have been covering this deal closely. is there anything to this last minute hiccup with the israeli cabinet? how serious is that here? >> it could be. we don't know yet. i do know that up to the last few hours before they announced the agreement yesterday, casey hamas was coming up with sort of last minute things they were putting on the table. it's a very unusual technique on their part. and the question is, can that be put down? but the bigger question is who's right under in this dispute between the two? and the answer is really both. so the deal is essentially what president biden laid out in may. it also you may notice this is january. so you know that deal did not happen. and i think the fact that they did link up so well and that steve witkoff, who was president trump's incoming mideast adviser, was out there in lockstep with brett mcgurk, who was president biden's equivalent for that and has worked for republican presidents as well. i think that made the difference because they were able to go to netanyahu, send w

. >> well, i placed most of the blame on this latest iteration of the controversy on david sanger, not on donald trump, because he asked a question that donald trump would obviously answer in the way that he did. >> he said, will you rule out military attack on greenland? no, i'm not going to rule it out. okay? i mean, everybody knows that what donald trump's going to say. >> rule out military force. >> but nobody at this panel, nobody watching today, thinks that donald trump is going to use american troops to invade greenland, because it's a crazy thing to say. it's a crazy thing to do. so that means that what he's done is he's created a diplomatic incident and a controversy with our nato ally for no real reason, which could only really play into the hands of our adversaries. because, of course, the greenland government is going to say, why would we want to trade one colonial ruler for another colonial ruler? that's not what happens in the 21st century. that's what happened in the 19th century. and of course, the chinese government is going to come in and say, oh, those americans, the

before i get to you, i do want to play david sanger, our friend at the new york times. his question about the panama canal and on greenland and donald trump's response before you respond. >> no, i can't assure you on either of those two. but i can say this. we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for our military. i'm not going to commit to that now. it might it might be that you'll have to do something. look, the panama canal is vital to our country. it's being operated by china. china. and we gave the panama canal to panama. we didn't give it to china. and they've abused it. they've abused that gift. it should have never been made, by the way, it was giving the panama canal is why jimmy carter lost the election. in my opinion, more so maybe than the hostages. the hostages were a big deal. >> uh, okay. so the question is, caitlin, how much of this is donald trump being trying to negotiate and posturing and warning them? and how much do you really think he means it, particularly given the fact that a big part of his consistent campaign message for

my panel is back with me along with now david sanger, cnn political and national security analyst, andte house and national security correspondent for the new york times. and one note, david urban recently consulted for bytedance, but he no longer does. david, let me go to you. sanger trump once tried like sanger. trump once tried to ban this app talking about national security. now there's a proposal for kind of a 50 over 50 deal. what's possible here? >> well, lots of things are possible. but the question is, what problem are we trying to solve for the problem that we're trying to solve is that the algorithm which watches what you're selecting on, on tiktok and then recommends other things to you, including news and so forth, that is written not by tiktok in the united states, but by bytedance, the parent company in china. and china's got rules that say it can never be exported. so in other words, we can't see behind the closed veil here about what's going into the algorithm. now, president trump, president elect trump came out today with this idea first in a truthsocial post and the

yeah. >> david sanger, really appreciate it. we'll get you back next time.can you can take us through your tiktok, any dances you might be working on. >> okay, great. but for now, i don't think you want to see that, omar. i don't know. >> yeah, we'll see. we'll see. >> thanks for being here. >> we'll talk soon. take care. bye bye. >> much more to come on inauguration day in the united states, including a closer look at some of the many executive actions donald trump is planning on day one. our political panel will be back with me just ahead. stay with us. >> kobe was global. people felt his presence. >> kobe. the making of a legend premieres saturday at nine on cnn. >> sail through the heart of historic cities. and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once and get closer to iconic landmarks. local life and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship, you'll spend less time getting there and more time being there. viking exploring the world in comfort. >> okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutritio

with us now, richard quest jeff zeleny phil mattingly, alex marquardt and david sanger.hard, i want to start with you. what are you expecting? >> well, let me just set the scene for you, if i may. behind you. they're all lying. they're lining up to get into the main room, which is the congress center. the big hall where the speech will be received. it's quite an interesting concept here, because you have the great and the good, the absolute world's elite. but when you come to an

and god bless david sanger for being there to ask these questions of donald trump, what is actually going on here with him? >> well, we're talking about donald trump. he's not president yet, and we're talking about him. i don't know. i had a flashback. i watched that entire press conference live yesterday. it's just like what it was like to cover the first trump white house and the first trump presidency. he threw out a lot of things. it was it was really there were a couple of glances down at some notes, but it was sort of a stream of consciousness, uh, classic trump press conference. everything that was on his mind sort of coming out on this. i think he's trying to get attention. i think there is some seriousness to some of these. i really do think he's serious about greenland. and, you know, his son, donald trump junior, was there in greenland this week uh, as a, i guess, a fact finding mission, i think, with a bobblehead of his father, i think so. so, look, i think he's serious. i think he's very still. if you listen to that press conference, he's torn up about the panama canal, somet

david sanger is the white house correspondent, and rachael bade is a contributing correspondent and capitol lot of politico here today, and we need that today. i want to start with you on that note. it was hard to miss your headline in your column to say, time to admit it. trump is a great president. he's still trying to be a good one. explain. >> sure, and that headline was maybe a little bit of a hand grenade to get people's attention, but the argument i was making is president trump is great in the sense of being a large and consequential figure who is putting his imprint on every aspect of american politics, even american culture. that's distinct from saying he's a good president whose policies are in the public interest and will make the country better. that's of course, the source of a terrific argument and i don't weigh in on that. >> martha: you said he is everything his supporters hoped for and everything his adversaries feared. >> absolutely, and i think the point is obviously this week that president trump is not a fluke, as a lot of democrats thought after 2016 and thought throu

cnn's kim dozier, david sanger from the new york times, the new yorker, susan glasser and punchbowl news, john bresnahan, nice to see you guys. interesting what joe biden just said here in these remarks. he said that the teams, both his team and the trump team, he said, have worked each work with one voice. that was his words. and he called for persistence in the way forward. what have you heard about behind the scenes, how this came together, this deal with the biden teams and the trump teams in these final weeks? >> well, when the president elect and the president met and gave their teams an opportunity to work together, permission, they have been working hand in glove with trump's incoming middle east adviser, delivering some of the hammer type remarks to netanyahu to signal trump really does want this done before he takes office, because he wants to build on the abraham accords of last time. >> he wants an expanded peace deal, and that can't happen. while you have images of gaza being hammered on arab television screens. >> and what about you, david? this you know, there's obviously

david sanger from the new york times and the new yorker's susan glasser. good morning to you all. let's just take a step back about what this deal entails. just to remind our viewers at home about this first phase, the first phase of the deal, the israeli military is going to begin to withdraw from population centers. palestinians that are expected to be able to return to gaza aid efforts as as jeremy reported, they're starting to increase in the region. much needed aid efforts. then the release of 33 hostages by hamas, and then about a thousand palestinian prisoners from israel. those 33 hostages, about three per week, is what we are told. what what to expect. david, you're what we're watching this all unfold. walk us through the significance of this moment and the challenges ahead. >> well, the first significance of this moment is that it's happening at all. as you heard from jeremy's report, the last prisoner release we saw was 14 months ago. and we thought at that time that there would be fairly regular and that we'd be on a path to a ceasefire. it didn't happen that way. and

. >> cnn political and national security analyst david sanger questioned trump about his territorial intentions. >> can you assure the world that as you try to get control of these areas, you are not going to use military or economic coercion? no. are you going to negotiate a new treaty? are you going to ask the canadians to hold a vote? what what is the strategy? >> i can assure you, you're talking about panama and greenland. no, i can't assure you on either of those two. but i can say this. we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for our military. military? i'm not going to commit to that now. >> well, meanwhile, trump also wants to change the name of the gulf of mexico. cnn's jeff zeleny reports from west palm beach, florida. >> less than two weeks before taking office, president elect donald trump made clear he has his eye on a full agenda, both domestically and internationally. speaking at mar a lago, his resort, giving his first full throated news conference of the year, he made clear about the gaza hostages. he said if they are not released by the time h

speaking to david sanger of the new york times. >> can you assure the world that as you try to get controlf these areas, you are not going to use military or economic coercion? no. >> you're talking about panama and greenland? no. i can assure you on either of those two. but i can say this. we need them for economic security. the panama canal was built for our military. i'm not going to commit to that now. >> now, he has been talking about taking both foreign territories for years, but not going that far for sure. again, lot going on with that press conference. even beyond that, which also means it's time to bring in the fact check. and that is where we bring in cnn's daniel dale. daniel, so you have donald trump talking about that, as we've discussed. but i want to play for you some another topic that the president elect took on was talking about january 6th. once again, let's play this. >> this would be the only insurrection in history where people went in as insurrectionists with not one gun. okay. and let me tell you, the people that you're talking about have a lot of guns in their hom

whether it's firing those pentagon, as david sanger from the new york times was, was referencing. it really touches every single agency. so it is a real question of what that looks like over the coming days and whether or not there are legal challenges, which we do know we expect to come from states potentially as soon as today. >> kaitlan collins please stand by. we want to stay with our team at the white house and go to jeff zeleny, who is live for us on the north lawn. jeff, these moves from trump, broadly speaking, speak to a vision of the executive and its power that you could argue is unprecedented in american history of course, there's no question about it. >> and as caitlin was talking there, just heard questions about the inspectors general and everything else. it is just one example after another. how in this a second trump administration, the president is flexing his presidential muscle and powers day by day, executive order by executive order. and clearly many of these are likely to be challenged in court. and that is the point. we are starting to get, you know, a view

with us now, richard quest jeff zeleny phil mattingly, alex marquardt and david sanger. richard, i want to start with you. what are you expecting? >> well, let me just set the scene for you, if i may. behind you. they're all lying. they're lining up to get into the main room, which is the congress center. the big hall where the speech will be received. it's quite an interesting concept here, because you have the great and the good, the absolute world's elite. but when you come to an event like listening to donald trump, they're just chopped liver like everybody else, and they have to line up and show their passes to get in the room. once they are in there. donald trump is expected to speak via video, and then he's going to be questioned. it's they describing it as a discussion. brian moynihan of bank of america, ana botin of banco santander, the ceo of total of france. whole variety of ceos will put questions or discuss with the president how that goes. no one knows we're in uncharted territory here. >> we certainly are. and we are waiting for trump to address those worl

said when pressed on greenland, when pressed on these other things, david sanger with "the new york times" wrote this morning that when asked those questions, he responded with, quote, signature vagueness. >> right. >> so guess what happens? we talk about it. everybody talks about it. >> right. >> everybody writes about it. everybody is asking, is he or isn't he? the signature vagueness is there. the trolling is there. and he's in the middle of the conversation. >> exactly. and then it becomes incumbent to separate the signal from the noise. what actually matters here? does renaming the gulf of mexico to the gulf of america, is that going to happen? no. imagine all the maps we have to rewrite. we can put that aside. there are some things that do matter. threatening or not ruling out military force to acquire the panama canal or greenland. i think materially matters, if only because it sends a signal to russia, hey, go ahead. we do territorial sovereignty doesn't matter. you can do what you want in ukraine. sends a signal to china, taiwan, right. that's the signal and that's the nois

but david sanger reporting today, peter baker reporting today that what happened in negotiations, nothing short of historic and incoming and outgoing administration having their aides coordinate in the closest of ways the end of a just a bloody brutal war. yeah. >> even in the busy news day you laid out above the fold on all of the newspapers this morning, is this news of a cease fire deal that you have here in the new york times, the wall street journal, and all the other papers? and yet, despite what we just saw a moment ago from president biden saying, are you serious? who should get credit for this deal? it turns out, and we'll talk to peter baker about his reporting on this in the times this morning. it turns out there was behind the scenes collaboration between the incoming administration and the outgoing one to get this deal, which looks a little tenuous this morning. but there are high hopes that at least some of these hostages will go home, and that aid will start to flow into gaza. >> yeah, the hostage situation would be the end of agony, at least for some families. israel's cla