i'm truly pleased to welcome to the show a friend and colleague of many years, david satterfield. i first met david when we were both working in the bureau of intelligence and research he was on temporary assignment and i was doing lebanon and pella sitting in during the 1982 invasion and the tragedy that followed american policy. david has had his distinguished career in the foreign service. he has a capacity to read the real estate of a complex region accurately and to do so with great power and with great impressions. seeing the world the way it is, i would argue can be very discouraging, sometimes paralytic. seeing the world the way it is is critically important if we are going to have any attempt at trying to change it. welcome to carnegie connects. >> happy to be here. >> we don't have a lot to time -- a lot of time and there is to cover. before we delve -- delve into the details, you might give us a quick view of white you and i agreed on this for weeks now, this crisis is so complex. our friend and colleague bill burns, the cia director, in 40 years of working the issue has

.5 weeks of opportunity for ongoing negotiations, us officials, whether it is the ambassador, david satterfieldmbassador burns engaged in these discussions, they will be pushing and pushing hard for a solution, for a negotiation that successfully ameliorates is pressure on rafah. we have to keepin pressure on rafah. we have to keep in mind that there are millions of civilians in place and in danger. the world is not ignoring that. and the israeli government, to its cost, would ignore that. they have their aims, they got to get their hostages out, but we have to keepin hostages out, but we have to keep in mind the millions of civilians that are in danger. how much sway does the united states having a role towards a potential diplomatic solution here? well, we've all heard that the relationship between president biden and prime minister netanyahu has been strained in recent days. it is a deep pity and a clear picture of how the israeli intent to eradicate hamas from the beginning so far has failed when you move from a president who has said clearly, under bitingly, we stand with israel, to the po

working this quite literally every single day through our own invoice for assistance best for david satterfield in his team for the work that and many others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations. engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians. but the bottom line is this, though, we need more a to get in through more places to reach more people. to the g 20 meeting, we'll use a road map ahead of the heads of states summit in november. really is hoping this would be the 1st step towards changing an international system that has failed to find the solutions the world desperately needs to do so. as a feeder really janitta the secretary general of doctors without borders has criticized us, draw resolution on gaza saying that it's misleading. he spoke to the un security council which will vote on it the us, a sofa block tool, resolutions cooling for a cease fire in garza new draft resolution by the united states expensive records for cease fire. however, this is misleading, at best discounts, so should reject any reso

working this quite literally, every single day through our own invoice for assistance, investor, david satterfield in his team for the work that i am, any others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations. engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians. but the bottom line is this though, we need more a to get in through more places to reach more people. the g 20 meeting and we'll is that roadmap ahead of the heads of state. somebody to november really is hoping this would be the 1st step towards changing an international system that has failed to find the solutions the world desperately needs a sample. as a cd, we always enable the speaker of a u. k. his house of commons, lindsay oil, has again apologized for allowing a controversial vote on an amendment by the labor party on casa. the scottish and national party says this because decision preventative votes on its cx, 5 motion, some, and he's not want him to resign. a full set report from london. so after the fury of wednesday evening, there was comparative calm in the

working this quite literally every single day through our own invoice for assistance master david satterfield and his team for the work that and many others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians . the bottom line is this though, we need more a to get in 3 more places to reach more people. well then friedman is a policy director of defense priorities, a foreign policy think tank. he says, american attempts to influence is ro on working. i think the united states and secretary blinking in particular are in a, in a mode where they're genuflecting trying to show respect for international law of the opinion of the international community for the lives of the palestinian civilians being killed in big numbers in garza. but they're not willing to really stand up to israel, and that means my opinion threatening them with withdrawal of support, including financial support. if they don't do what we ask them to do. so it's not that a blinking and by the administration have to g

working this quite literally every single day through our own invoice for assistance, investor, david satterfield, and his team for the work that and many others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians. the bottom line is this though, we need more a to get in through more places to reach more people. more on that uh from tell us about reporting from rio de janeiro. i'm here at saudi's home telling real to john 8 or 4 secretary of state and city. lincoln just held a press conference to speak about the g 20 summit happening here, but also about the ongoing situation and guys of the war on guys blink. and said that getting the captive release is a priority for the united states that he's personally in touch every day with the c i a director who's working to get to is, well, how are you tip to, you know, to work on a deal with how much is well that we get the captives really, if he also spoke about too many period needing gas so that much more aid is needed and also working a

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that is exactly what is happening. >> they have not reported it to the person on the ground, david satterfield, who is our coordinator and that is the statement i got from him a couple days ago. happy to share it with you. >> it would only require him to ask an actual security adviser. >> thank you. if i could have a few more minutes, look, i want to pick up on a couple of questions raised by senator kaine. an ambassador schapiro, good to see you. which is, you know, there's been lots of discussion here about our actions against the houthis and i am fully in support of protecting waterways. but let's also recognize that the houthi action has been in response to the war on gaza. would you not agree with that, mr. schapiro? >> thank you, senator. i would certainly agree that the houthis have made the claim that that is the original motivation for their attacks. i think they made some other claims along the way. i would just simply say that whatever the rationale or reason or claim that the houthis or any other organization would make for conducting these kinds of attacks, there is no legitimacy

working this quite literally every single day through our own invoice for assistance master david satterfield and his team for the work that and many others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians . but the bottom line is this though, we need more a to get in more places to reach more people. that's the bottom line. and we wanna make sure that, uh, we deliver on that every single day. uh, we were engaged in an issue arises. we, uh, we tackled it and we looked to see uh that, uh there's an adequate response. so, you know, you can take this issue issue by issue optimal by optimal, but what we have seen is when we've brought up a problem that's, that's arisen. so generally speaking, yes, these, these rallies have engaged it. but we continue to be in a situation where again, not enough is getting in in the 1st place and once it's in, it's not affectively getting to everyone or needs it. that has to be addressed. final question, camilla is there are for the south paula. hi

working this quite literally every single day through our own invoice for assistance master david satterfield and his team for the work that and many others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians . but the bottom line is this, though, we need more a to get in through more places to reach more people also zeros theresa bow has been covering the d 20 meeting and she reports from rio de janeiro. i'm here at sadie is whole telling real to john 8 or 4 secretary of state and city. lincoln just held a press conference to speak about the g 20 summit happening here, but also about the ongoing situation and guys of the war on guys that blink and said that getting the captive release is a priority for the united states that he's personally in touch every day with the c i, a director who's working to get to is, well, how tall are you, tip to, you know, to work on a deal with how much time is well that we get the captives really, he also spoke about too many period needing gas so

working this quite literally every single day through our own invoice for assistance, investor, david satterfield, and his team for the work that and many others in the government are doing engaging with the different institutions of the united nations engaging with the israeli government with the egyptians with the jordanians. the bottom line is this though, we need more a to get in through more places to reach more people. and us presidential biden's top middle east advisor breton. the girl is in israel to discuss the war on gaza at the prospect for cease fire talks and kept his release so far. he has met israel's defense, but it's to you on a lot of houses here as honda. so who has more on that from occupied east jerusalem or so in a meeting, israel's defense minister meeting with breton mcgurn, biden's, top of middle east advisor. and in that golan t off go on, the defense minister has released the statement saying that israel will now expand the negotiators for the captives what they are allowed to do. but all, while israel and the military will be planning for more intensive ground operatio