hour my good friend david seaman thanks so much for coming on david. so david let's start with a question that's on the mind of a lot of americans and one by jake tapper today under what conditions would snowden agree to return to the u.s. noted responded with quote maybe when congress comes together to end the programs that p c l o b you just announced was a legal downward form the whistleblower protection act and we'll see a mechanism for all americans to get a fair trial question david if you were snowden would you ever step foot in this country again. not for the next couple of years probably lay low for a little bit now and watch the skies for drones it's really interesting to me that the media is so focused on snowden i mean i understand that he's doing a q. and a but i have a theory that the u.s. media with the exception of a few people like yourself things like twitter where we still get real news and so it's clogged up with promoted tweets by mcdonald's and monsanto i have a theory that the u.s. media is literally incapable of following a stor

surveillance they are apparently specialize in the same teams ready to hack it manually journalist david seaman believes global tech companies should gear up for a massive backlash. my understanding of it is that this is extremely widespread but is not so much the companies cooperating with the n.s.a. as it is the n.s.a. pouring tremendous amounts of money and talent into developing these hacks we're talking about a complete orwellian control of innocent people's phones and innocent people's computers and laptops and i think that it undermines basic faith and confidence in american tech companies this is going to lead to a massive loss of revenue technology has the power to lift all of us up to provide more innovation and transparency than ever before in human history and that's the path that the internet was already on you see the explosion in online media and everybody has a voice in opinion in this global society but the n.s.a. has destroyed a lot of that it's undermined basic faith in the internet a russian fishing trawler has been seized by senegal's navy off the coast of the tiny west afr

apple has already denied trenton n s a backdoor access to its devices by journalist david seaman think americans could lose faith in high tech industries. my understanding of that is needed. this is extremely widespread but is not so much the company is cooperating with the nsa as it is the nsa pouring tremendous amounts of money and talent into developing these hacks were talking about complete orwellian control of innocent people's phones of innocent people's computers and laptops and i think that it undermines the basic faith and confidence in american tech companies this can lead to a massive loss of revenue technology has the power to lift all the subs provide more innovation in transparency than ever before in human history. and that's the path that the internet was already on the cd explosion in online media there but he has a voice that opinion in this global society. but the nsa has destroyed a lot of edits undermines basic faith in the internet. i'll be back with more news about thirty minutes but up next on t4 of the party talks on a blog that discusses the expanding waistli

that with spyware infiltrate software and attacks in order to get to their targets journalist david seaman told us after the scandalous exposure of the n.s.a. people will never trust companies the way they used to. my understanding of it is that this is extremely widespread but is not so much the companies cooperating with the n.s.a. as it is the n.s.a. pouring tremendous amounts of money and talent into developing these hacks we're talking about complete orwellian control of innocent people's phones and innocent people's computers and laptops and i think that it undermines basic faith and confidence in american tech companies this is going to lead to a massive loss of revenue technology has the power to lift all of us up to provide more innovation and transparency that ever before in human history and that's the path that the internet was already on you see the explosion in online media and everybody has a voice in opinion in this global society but the n.s.a. has destroyed a lot of that it's undermined basic faith in the internet. also in the news this car roadside bombs have ripped thro