host: david shepardson joining us in conversation. if you have questions, you can give us a call at (202) 748-8000 for the eastern and central time zones, (202) 748-8001 for the mountain and pacific time zones. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. david shepardson, the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, talking with the head of airlines, saying basically how will you resolve this? how much power does the federal government have over this? guest: not a lot. the government does have the power to take enforcement actions if they believe the airlines are not abiding by consumer protection laws. there are certain lawmakers -- the pennsylvania democratic candidate john fetterman has called for new fines significant fine,s, if airlines cancel a flight they know they didn't have the staffing for, but it will be somewhat challenging to determine how -- determine ahead of time how they could no. nonetheless, it does raise a lot of anger toward the airlines for the number of cancellations and delays. so it is worth remembering that, after t