. >> my name is david shoeman. this is an unusual situation. the retirement system is not the employer of the members of the retirement system, yet has gotten involved in the issue of canceling a member's pension benefits as punishment for an employment-related issue. retirement system does not have any role to play when an employee is disciplined for a work-related issue. the charter uses the term forfeiture of the pension based on being found guilty of a crime involving moral interpret. but it's not the judge of whether a member has violated a criminal statute. the judge in this case did not impose loss of pension as a penalty of the crime nor did the judge determine that the alleged crime constituted morale interpretude. the criminal charges have their own penalties. the members involved in those employment or criminal infractions have due practice rights. if they do not prevail they pay the penalties. the loss of pension, however, is not on the table. the retirement system should not have a role in determining further penalties, especially