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joining me to talk about this is linda who helps preachers openly question their faith and david silverman from atheist incorporated. you cannot deny the numbers. more people have doubts now. could we be looking at a phasing out of god over the next several decades? i will start with you. >> la scola. the question again, please? >> 'we seeing a doubt in the existence of god recently with so many, especially young people now? >> i can only speculate. the work i have done is conducting research with clergy who no longer believe in the super natural. what they tell me and these are older people over 30, what me is they wanted to believe and did believe for many, many years and dedicated their lives to believing. at some point the evidence outweighed beliefs. information is so much more available now through the internet. i know that's what young people are telling you. there is a lot of information available out there. >> is this a gradual phasing out? >> i believe we are going to see not so gradual of a phasing out of mgz. i don't think religion will go away completely, but i think that in 5

from new york david silverman the president of the group american atheists. gentlemen, great to see you. david, let's start with you. this poll must be wonderful news for you, right? because 54% of americans say that they would vote for an atheist. is that a sign in your opinion of a great american evolution toward unbelief or agnosticism or atheism? >> i think it's more of a progression towards tolerance. we are seeing the debigotting of america. people are not willing to say he is an atheist and won't vote for that anymore. population not only in the whole the under 30 group 70% would vote for atheist. this is just a atheist normalization of america. it doesn't mean we're going to become antireligious nation. >> but you would prefer that. >> i would not prefer that. >> laura: why? >> what we need to do is get to a point where people can be who they are and not be judged simply on that fact. you know what we are looking for here is quality. we are not looking for documentation. >> dave. i'm always confused about this because this entire notion that america is

terry mortenson creationist, and historian of geology joins me from cincinnati and along with him david silvermanesident of american atheists joining us from new york. david, let me start with you with this one, you are an atheist which means that you lack a belief of a supreme being or beings, and what do you make of the poll? >> i make the poll is really a tantamount to the poor education system that we have in this country. the kids and the students in this country are not taught to think critically. they are taught to remember and regurgitate, and what you get from that is that people are just listening to their preachers and believing it without actually thinking about, do i really think about the invisible man in the sky. that is what we are talking about here. there is no more evidence for a god than there is for santa claus. yet 46% of the country think n santa claus or god made humans in their present form despite all of the fossil records that we have. evolution is scientific fact about which we know more than gr gravity and relatively, but the creationists in this country are so proud