mr. solomon positions the company. his tenure, by the way, is likely to be half of lloyd's. >> that's right. >> david is in his mid 50s mr. solomons in his mid 50s at this point you would imagine seven years at the helm is likely tenure at this point we'll see what he's able to do from that period of time he's a banker. >> right that's where the big margins are. >> came over in '99, i think. >> i think that -- true confessions. a lot of my friends are retiring at major firms the reason why they're retiring is because they've gotten the directive that unless you want to maintain these fabulous people in their 50s you've got to step down and let them make the big money. fortunately most of the people doing this, i talked to, are so wealthy. don't cry for me argentina, brazil, belize, you know but you end up with a situation they had no choice age lot of people said, wait a second, lloyd is at the prime. lloyd is at the prime of his life what is he doing he's making it so the other people at the prime of their life don't leave it's what happens if you don't do this. i need people -- again, it's only because of commonality. i talked